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  1. #421
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    But then you get people who are like "but-but muh FC. I can't leab it. T_T"

    Prob gonna be the last thing I say on this topic but if you're (speaking in general) butthurt over people making FCs to get housing while refusing to leave your own FC....you're literally just getting mad over nothing. I dipped to Dynamis because housing and all of the people in my life prior to that are still in my life now, we literally just use cross-DC to hang out and I'm still in their servers on Discord. If a <TAG> next to your name is more important than actually getting your house, you don't need one that badly. If your FC is the type that would shut you out if you leave, why are you still there? They clearly don't care about your friendship.

    It just makes very little sense to me over why people get mad over something they aren't willing to do in the first place. Like, the devs aren't going to magically change all but one ward to private housing. Is it scummy that some people chose to multi-own or make their own FC to get a house? Sure. Can I blame them? No. If your ties to your own FC are holding you back from doing the same then evaluate how badly you actually need that house and maybe hop off giving other people a hard time for being able to do what you refuse.

    Also, if you're waiting for a specific plot to open because you absolutely can't imagine living in a "lowly small", then get in line with everyone else who wants that plot if you arent willinf to move to get it. Meanwhile those who are just happy to get something will already have theirs. This housing system leaves no room for being picky once it gets to the point that we're only getting 1 or 2 new houses at a time. Relocate later, that's the literal point of it.
    Couldnt have said it better myself, well done.
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  2. #422
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    It just makes very little sense to me over why people get mad over something they aren't willing to do in the first place. Like, the devs aren't going to magically change all but one ward to private housing. Is it scummy that some people chose to multi-own or make their own FC to get a house? Sure. Can I blame them? No. If your ties to your own FC are holding you back from doing the same then evaluate how badly you actually need that house and maybe hop off giving other people a hard time for being able to do what you refuse.
    Playing the "end justify the means, why aren't you doing it" card isn't helpful for the overall health of the game. When bad behavior becomes normalized it spreads and eventually infects everything it touches.

    We saw this in World of Warcraft. First it was the Deadly Boss Mods addon. It was basically required to raid. Then we had achievement checkers mods and raid.io checkers to require outlandish ilvl requirements etc etc etc. It never ends.

    "Why don't you just download a parser that gives you call outs, everyone else is doing it."


    "Why don't you just abuse the FC tag to obtain a house, everyone else is doing it"

    "DPS is all that matters, screw the healers stress levels, tanks should wear STR accessories and remove a lot of health / mitigation (in HW)"

    "Screw the healers, they can adjust, I'm eating this mechanic and probably dying"

    I know the last two are kind of borderline (good healers CAN adjust) but it shows how the line keeps moving.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 01-29-2023 at 11:37 PM.

  3. #423
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Playing the "end justify the means, why aren't you doing it" card isn't helpful for the overall health of the game. When bad behavior becomes normalized it spreads and eventually infects everything it touches.

    We saw this in World of Warcraft. First it was the Deadly Boss Mods addon. It was basically required to raid. Then we had achievement checkers mods and raid.io checkers to require outlandish ilvl requirements etc etc etc. It never ends.

    "Why don't you just download a parser that gives you call outs, everyone else is doing it."


    "Why don't you just abuse the FC tag to obtain a house, everyone else is doing it"

    "DPS is all that matters, screw the healers stress levels, tanks should wear STR accessories and remove a lot of health / mitigation (in HW)"

    "Screw the healers, they can adjust, I'm eating this mechanic and probably dying"

    I know the last two are kind of borderline (good healers CAN adjust) but it shows how the line keeps moving.
    The point is that there are multiple solutions.

    Goblet/Empy areas.

    If these fail, you can move to a different world or datacenter with more availability.

    The solutions are right there, up to you to pick them or not.

    If you REALLY want a house, then you will do what you need to do to get one. And this goes for everyone complaining in this thread "muh multiowners ruining my housing" as theres hundred plots available in goblet alone
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  4. #424
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I won another house!!!

    3 out of 4 alts own a home now!

    (1)
    The price of solving everything is everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  5. #425
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100


    I won, in my starting city - and favourite city's - residential ward, with no competition on Smalls around me. Waited until the last minute, and no one came. I'm content.
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    Mortal Fist

  6. #426
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    Vanaheim's Avatar
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    Vana Heim
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Once again I lost a small. I waited till 2am to bid. There were only 1s and 0s in the ward.


    Bid before bed on one of the 0s. Someone decided to bid over me at the last minute and won. Apparently although no one wanted this one all week, this person wanted this single one, and every other house in the ward ended with 1 bid.


    This lottery feels awful.
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  7. #427
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    GhostZukin's Avatar
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    Jannus Novus
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I still think last minute bidders ought to have some sort of lowered handicapped chance :^)
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  8. #428
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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dancer Lv 80
    You'll hit a certain point where you stop caring about housing. Lose enough times and you'll see it ain't worth the energy
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  9. #429
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Welp lost yet another lottery...this time a med in the mist with 10 bidders(it was the lowest bidded med I checked last night before I logged out) I love losing so much :-/
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  10. #430
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Y'all wanted lottery, you got it

    There's your "fair" system.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 01-30-2023 at 12:34 AM.

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