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  1. #111
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    lol a large amount of people have houses in places we dont want, as originally it was easier to transfer to your desired plot than purchase it. We started with Goblet and then finally moved to Mist.
    Yeah, that's most likely I'm so upset about all this. Back in SB, I was happy with my small beachside house in the mist. I only really wanted to upgrade to a med and never saw myself owning a large. Knowing I wanted a med really badly bc I hated how small it was in the item cap, a friend help me keep an eye out for a med in either shiro or mist(my fav areas in the game at that date). Then they found the goblet large Im in now. They talk me into getting it, even leaning me the 25mil I was short. I broke down and got it thinking one day I could move to a better housing area since I always hated the goblet. At first, it was fun having a large but as time went on I grow to hate it more and more, even losing the motivation to decorate it. I never really knew how hard it is to make a large look nice, especially the yard due to the fact goblet larges doors do not line up with the yard's gate.

    Anyway, I saved up all my gil and paid the friend back their 25mil over the course of the last year of SB and ShB. When Ishgrad housing was announced I was excited bc I thought this was my time to finally move but then they said they removed the timer bypass house owners had and everyone would have to do the lottery. I knew then my odds of moving to med or large in Ishgrad were so small now. I tried but have failed every lottery cycle that I found at least a med open in one of the other housing areas. Now I feel so defeated by an rng system that most likely will never allow me to leave the house I have grown to hate so much. I could just let auto demo take it and take the loss in gil but tbh I don't know if I could do that bc I would most likely lose so many housing items since I dont have the inv space to keep them(that includes cash shop items I gotten to like the expac pics). Now I feel like a prisoner in a house and in the area I always hated. Even worst is that friend who help me get the house isn't even a friend anymore, we had a fallen out and now this house only reminds me of her every day. So that's why I'm so depressed and tired of this system and got so heated towards others who call me entitled. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

    If I only knew all this back in SB. I would never gave up my mist house.
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    Last edited by MrJPtheAssassin; 01-22-2023 at 02:08 AM.

  2. #112
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    Would you have been happy, if you lost to a placard spammer?
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    No?
    I entered the lottery for an Ishgard house when they were first released, because I've been wanting a house in Ishgard for years, and lost a three-way lottery against 2 other bidders.
    Oh, damn, nevermind, try again next week.

    Now I have an Ishgard house.

    Just convert your "hours of clicking" energy into patience. The lottery happens every 9 days. If you're getting 1 other bidder every time, your 50/50 chance is going to turn into a win soon enough.
    I don't disagree with you entirely, but it's a little odd to say just try again next week and "if you're getting one other bidder every time". Supply is going to dry up, there will inherently be more bidders on each available house each round because less houses will be available. It just gets harder as time goes on just due to supply being nowhere near the demand.
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  4. #114
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I don't disagree with you entirely, but it's a little odd to say just try again next week and "if you're getting one other bidder every time". Supply is going to dry up, there will inherently be more bidders on each available house each round because less houses will be available. It just gets harder as time goes on just due to supply being nowhere near the demand.
    Not now that housing demolition is back on.

    A load of houses were freed up a couple weeks earlier as well due to the first round of demolition timers expiring.

    There are now 5 free plots in my ward alone, either through demolition or relocation, which will be up for bidding in a couple of days.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Not now that housing demolition is back on.

    A load of houses were freed up a couple weeks earlier as well due to the first round of demolition timers expiring.

    There are now 5 free plots in my ward alone, either through demolition or relocation, which will be up for bidding in a couple of days.
    I know I got heated with you this morning but I wanted to say this one thing. AutoDemo isn't going to make that many house plots free tbh. It will free some houses up but not to the amount you make it out to be. Plus I feel maybe you seeing a lot of plots up because you are not on a Congested server. The server I'm on Jenova is one and we have hardly any smalls, meds, or larges left. Supply will never meet the demand with this system and autodemo only helps very little. I don't know how crowded Zodiark is but I can tell you most Aether servers are very high-pop servers and plots are hard to come by even with auto demo on. You can't just look at your own server and say "Well there are plots available guys it's easy to get a house! My server has plenty." If I didn't have an FC, a static and was able to get my gil back from the large I have right now I love would to move to Dynamis where I hear housing is a ghost land since those servers are new but Im not going to uproot my whole life just to move to a server where I have no one to talk to.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Not now that housing demolition is back on.

    A load of houses were freed up a couple weeks earlier as well due to the first round of demolition timers expiring.

    There are now 5 free plots in my ward alone, either through demolition or relocation, which will be up for bidding in a couple of days.
    Demo is only going to do so much, especially now that people know it's back on. You can't count on houses being demo'd every bid cycle, especially if you're on aether (can't speak for other DCs), the new wards on Gilg filled up immediately for example.

    With a set supply and only a few becoming available every now and then, yes, it is going to become harder to win as time goes on just due to the demand as has been stated already in this thread.

    Now, on the subject of Gilgamesh, if they had added just a few more wards this patch, I think the supply might have come close to matching the demand, because all of the mediums and larges I looked at had like 1-3 bids on them.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 01-22-2023 at 03:55 AM.

  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Demo is only going to do so much, especially now that people know it's back on. You can't count on houses being demo'd every bid cycle, especially if you're on aether (can't speak for other DCs), the new wards on Gilg filled up immediately for example.

    With a set supply and only a few becoming available every now and then, yes, it is going to become harder to win as time goes on just due to the demand as has been stated already in this thread.

    Now, on the subject of Gilgamesh, if they had added just a few more wards this patch, I think the supply might have come close to matching the demand, because all of the mediums and larges I looked at had like 1-3 bids on them.
    I saw that as well on Jenova. In Shinro and Ishgrad the larges I looked at in ward 30 only had 2 to 6 bidders. One of the meds I really like in ishgrad only had 4 bidders on both the main and sub div. I went with a large in ishgrad that had the lowest amount of bidders among all the larges and meds I looked at which was 2. I still end up losing tho to the first person who bidded on the house. Now Im just hoping I can find a med with a low number of bidders in the next cycle and pray my luck turns around.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Exactly. People need to understand something. This system isn't perfect, but it's legit the best we can have right now.

    Because we tries other systems before. They were trash. They were unhealthy. Like, physically so.

    I don't want to go through that in any way.

    Do I want this to be replaced by something better? Hells yes. And at best, giving everyone the chance to own a house would be interesting, but that's been discussed in other threads, it's not doable. But there's no "better idea" being put forward either in this thread. So complaining that the system is unfair outside of obvious salt isn't going to help.

    Say what you will about this system. Unless you have a better idea, I do not want to see this be replaced by something that can be as unhealthy as the last ones were.
    I want the devs to actually put the time in and improve the system because rng is not as bad as the old system but it get annoying when you put money down on a plot and someone comes in at the last minute bids on the same plot then the rng choose them. I been seeing that alot lately where someone goes to a plot that has one person on it even through there are other open plots that has zero bids on it then win and once the get the place they lock the house yard reminds empty for months on end. I do hope island sanctuary is them testing out instant areaing for housing because the demand for player is only increasing over time.
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  9. #119
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    The unlucky will always be mad
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    The unlucky will always be mad
    There have been people who have been playing years who just finally got a house and will say the system is horrid.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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