Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Meowdyj]

What exactly is restricting new players going to do when they already struggle to make gil as it is to even consider buying one? The amount of times I hear "I can barely make over 1m gil." from newbies on here or in NN, etc.

If you think most of the houses are being taken up by sprouts or actual new players, that's kinda laughable.

You know that buying gil is cheap right? And that square is barely doing anything to ban the people that do it? Why should people that have been playing and waiting for a house for years have to compete with this? Would like to see to have at least the requirement to finish endgame just like with island sanctuary.

[LianaThorne]

You know that buying gil is cheap right? And that square is barely doing anything to ban the people that do it? Why should people that have been playing and waiting for a house for years have to compete with this? Would like to see to have at least the requirement to finish endgame just like with island sanctuary.

By that logic people can easily just buy a story skip to ShB and get through EW in a day no? Story based reqs won't fix the issue either.

[Seraphor]

By that logic people can easily just buy a story skip to ShB and get through EW in a day no? Story based reqs won't fix the issue either.

I mean, there already are story based requirements.

Shirogane came out during Stormblood, which meant you needed to be at least level 62 (when the cap was 70) in order to get a house there. 1/4th of all housing slots were locked off otherwise.
Likewise getting a house in Ishgard requires you to have completed Heavensward, so level 60.

Whichever new housing district we get is likely going to require a level of at least 81, as the prime candidates are likely Sharlayan or Thavnair.

[LianaThorne]

I mean, there already are story based requirements.

Shirogane came out during Stormblood, which meant you needed to be at least level 62 (when the cap was 70) in order to get a house there. 1/4th of all housing slots were locked off otherwise.
Likewise getting a house in Ishgard requires you to have completed Heavensward, so level 60.

Whichever new housing district we get is likely going to require a level of at least 81, as the prime candidates are likely Sharlayan or Thavnair.

You're not wrong but still can just buy a story skip and get access immediately and the same case will apply when 7.0 opens and we get a skip to Endwalker and higher level job skips.

Locking it behind reqs like level, gil or story progress are irrelevant because they can be acquired with your credit card. The only actual way to lock people out is setting a req behind character age or account age which I doubt will happen because the backlash would be insane.

Also, was a new district announced or are people just assuming we're getting a new one? Genuine question since I avoid LLs and the like.

[Seraphor]

You're not wrong but still can just buy a story skip and get access immediately and the same case will apply when 7.0 opens and we get a skip to Endwalker and higher level job skips.

Locking it behind reqs like level, gil or story progress are irrelevant because they can be acquired with your credit card. The only actual way to lock people out is setting a req behind character age or account age which I doubt will happen because the backlash would be insane.

Also, was a new district announced or are people just assuming we're getting a new one? Genuine question since I avoid LLs and the like.

Oh I didn't mean to suggest that story based requirements make a difference, as you said, they don't.

Nothing has been confirmed yet, but if the game as another 2 or 3 expansions left in it it's almost a certainty that at least one new housing district will appear at some point.

[Jojoya]

Also, was a new district announced or are people just assuming we're getting a new one? Genuine question since I avoid LLs and the like.

Someone posted it as a fact in the Housng subforum without providing any source other than "SE following their normal pattern" and it seems to have spread.

Of course what little pattern we've had for district additions would indicate a new one coming in 8.1, not 7.0.

To my knowledge, there's been no announcement made about additional housing beyond what will be part of the new worlds to be added later this year.

[Amenara]

You know that buying gil is cheap right? And that square is barely doing anything to ban the people that do it? Why should people that have been playing and waiting for a house for years have to compete with this? Would like to see to have at least the requirement to finish endgame just like with island sanctuary.

"I have been trying to get a house for longer than you so I deserve it more than you" This sentiment makes me even more glad the lottery was added to put everyone on equal footing with winning a house. If you meet the requirements and have the gil to purchase there should be no other barriers from letting you try and purchase one.

[Corvus_V]

If you meet the requirements and have the gil to purchase there should be no other barriers from letting you try and purchase one.

If you meet the requirements and have the gil to purchase there should be no other barriers from letting you purchase one.

Two words less and this would've been ideal. I'll keep saying it till it gets through. Housing doesn't have to suck.

There is no solution to this that pleases everyone outside of letting people purchase whatever house they want in whatever nation they want. You'll see a lot less in ward competition if your ghost town is so much more important to you than it is to just have the appropriate size and decoration limit. Either way, it is absolutely an acceptable alternative to the fact that without the in ward spot, you simply can't decorate anything of that size in the backdrop you'd prefer. Like running a dungeon with NPCs is an option for people who don't or cant play with other players. It doesn't need to suck. People have every right to be upset, and people don't need to get upset either if SE would work on it or confirm that they are. They have the fucking money and ability to do it.

They make small instanced areas you can only move around a little in with beautiful backdrops constantly. Literally just look at the dungeons and trials. They know how to do it.
I can own 2 apartments. Just like anyone can. You cannot be outbid for an FC or regular apartment. 1 FC apartment, and 1 regular apartment. That's 2. 1 interior, 1 exterior. It doesn't have to suck.

[Raim]

Two words less and this would've been ideal. I'll keep saying it till it gets through. Housing doesn't have to suck.

There is no solution to this that pleases everyone outside of letting people purchase whatever house they want in whatever nation they want. You'll see a lot less in ward competition if your ghost town is so much more important to you than it is to just have the appropriate size and decoration limit. Either way, it is absolutely an acceptable alternative to the fact that without the in ward spot, you simply can't decorate anything of that size in the backdrop you'd prefer. Like running a dungeon with NPCs is an option for people who don't or cant play with other players. It doesn't need to suck. People have every right to be upset, and people don't need to get upset either if SE would work on it or confirm that they are. They have the fucking money and ability to do it.

They make small instanced areas you can only move around a little in with beautiful backdrops constantly. Literally just look at the dungeons and trials. They know how to do it.
I can own 2 apartments. Just like anyone can. You cannot be outbid for an FC or regular apartment. 1 FC apartment, and 1 regular apartment. That's 2. 1 interior, 1 exterior. It doesn't have to suck.

The problem with the old first come first serve system was not just that people with good PCs and luck when logging in got the best plots, but that FCFS allows people to often sell plots and engage in RMT. Back in the day tons of people grabbed plots just so they could sell them for real money or like 10x the gil price. Thats impossible now days because of how the system changed.

[Joven]

I'll never understand why people feel like this. No one is asking for a house for free, they're asking for the opportunity to own the kind they want. That's a facet of a game. It is something you pay for. Square Enix has an obligation to make the game suck less when they can; so the critique is constructive and valid. The housing system in its entirety up until this point has sucked huge ass; specifically because it isn't instanced and is finite. Even more so because there's the supply issue varies from place to place, but the "demand" is always for plot sizes people want that they should be able to purchase if they have the gil.

But that is the attitude many people have about this: "I pay a subscription, I deserve access to everything in the game." Well you have access. Is it great? No, but the oportunity is still there. Housing has always been first come first serve ever since it's inception. Even if if every ward was free of multi-house hoarders there's still no guarantee of a house, much less the one you want.

The scarcity means there isn't an opportunity. Getting people to switch DCs is an option but it's not a solution; especially since the spots and sizes in question are occupied or not for sale at all.

Not to mention, playing on a foreign DC? Like after a certain point you have to reasonably just step back and say like: "Maybe I shouldn't have had to do that? Maybe it isn't my fault?"
I can understand if you're trying to be constructive, but you're kind of capitulating a little much to how awful it is to say that it's a normal thing for people to do to transfer to a foreign data center. I wouldn't have called that "unhinged," but I would say it's an observably bad kind of desperate.

You, me and everyone else here can make all the proposed solutions to this situation as we want, but until Squeenix is ready to nut up and piss off a lot of people who already own houses nothing is going to change. I was just trying to give an active idea for those interested.

A little beyond what should be acceptable for a company of this size.

This is a tired argument. A company's resources aren't unlimited regardless of how large they are and several people on here have already pointed out why them throwing more money at this isn't a solution either.

Lol okay bro, make assumptions off of nothing, I never said I was owed a house or anything of the sort, but pop off I guess. Nor did I call you unhinged, I said the solution you were offering sounds unhinged, and then you went into aggro mode because someone disagreed with you. It's a bad workaround for anyone, you shouldn't be expected to have to spend real money to have a *chance* at a house. That's just outright predatory. The solution right now is literally more wards until SE can manage something that's less of a bandaid and more of a an actual fix, which we all know probably won't be coming. The raffle system is fair (though idk how fair it is for FCs to have multiple members zerg a plot with bids, but other than that!) even if it's frustrating, pretty sure most of us here agree with that.

"I'm not calling *you* unhinged, just your ideas. Totally different, teehee." Right.

As I said to the person above, we can make all the proposed fixes we want, but until Squeenix themselves is ready to do what must be done it means nothing. What I offered wasn't meant to be the perfect solution, just a potential, active idea for those interested. Is it great? No, but neither is the situation at hand. At least I offered something you can do that's not just to continually slamming your head against the wall that is the housing market expecting it to suddenly get better. But sure, continue to scream into the void if it makes you feel better.