Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Honestly they could probably remedy this on NA/EU by paying for more server infrastructure and just slapping in like 30 more wards set to first come first serve, then changing it to lottery a day later.

You could add 100 more wards and it will still be sticking a plaster over a gash. Until they fix how it's abused it does feck all.

[Seraphor]

You could add 100 more wards and it will still be sticking a plaster over a gash. Until they fix how it's abused it does feck all.

No? 30 wards is thousands of houses.

The housing shortage is NOT as drastic as people make it out to be, it's just that any shortage at all feels unfair, because there end up being losers.

As I stated in my previous post, there have been many occasions where wards have been empty, and plots have not been taken up. the supply has beaten out the demand before.

What would be the point in adding 100 new wards if 60 of them ended up being 90% empty?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

No? 30 wards is thousands of houses.

The housing shortage is NOT as drastic as people make it out to be, it's just that any shortage at all feels unfair, because there end up being losers.

As I stated in my previous post, there have been many occasions where wards have been empty, and plots have not been taken up. the supply has beaten out the demand before.

What would be the point in adding 100 new wards if 60 of them ended up being 90% empty?

They've just added 60 wards and on busy servers it's still a massive issue. So how do u think 30 is going to fix it lol

[Seraphor]

They've just added 60 wards and on busy servers it's still a massive issue. So how do u think 30 is going to fix it lol

I thought they added 5 wards.

[ameliaw]

Lottery would be better if it wasn't so awfully long too.
3 days for bids and 3 for results should be more than enough.

[Zsolen]

It's 5 per residential district or 25 wards total. It is also 50 divisions (maps) total.

[IckeDerTyp]

Everyone knew it from the beginning but you know how "hope" works.

Server, servers and more servers - that's the only possible solution if they wanna keep the neighbourhoods intact.

But that costs money and apparently "we can't add more due to serverload", or so they said ages ago.

They've added some wards since then, despite that so we know how much they care about us.

:'D

[Midareyukki]

Everyone knew it from the beginning but you know how "hope" works.

Server, servers and more servers - that's the only possible solution if they wanna keep the neighbourhoods intact.

But that costs money and apparently "we can't add more due to serverload", or so they said ages ago.

They've added some wards since then, despite that so we know how much they care about us.

:'D

...thank you T_T I have a hard time summing things up, but yes, this is what I meant.

Servers cost A LOT (especially since Covid apparently?), and then you add maintenance on top and stuff like that. But that can only do so much.

[Corvus_V]

You're acting like no one has tried which is so far from the truth. Plenty of people have complained about how much instanced housing is needed. You can literally search the threads on here to see it for yourself or go through my post history if you want. I'm in several of them.

The reality is: The devs don't want to do instanced housing. They want the ward system and aren't willing to budge. The ward system is also their way of ensuring people stay subbed via the demo system, as predatory as it is.

That's why we continue to get compromises (IS) or new wards or changes to placard buying instead of instanced housing even when we ask for it. No amount of complaining on our end is going to solve anything if the devs are set on having the system we do.

I disagree. This is a video-game made for consumers. If people can complain to get aesthetic changes, they can do it to get a feature that should've been included given the ridiculous amount of player grief. If this is some intended effect of a vision, then whoever's doing the seeing is a blind sadist. I'm not willing to stop complaining about it or raising awareness for it just because Yoshi P doesn't care enough about the playerbase to make it so housing doesn't suck.

If we were going to get instanced, we would have already or maybe it's some big surprise for 7.0. Who knows. You're right to be angry about the system but we're not to blame for the devs not wanting instanced.

I'm right to be angry, what I'd rather see is people to stop compromising because compromising won't solve the problem. As I've said, I've done the math, if you did the math, they'd have add a ridiculous amount of wards to accommodate people who want larges and mediums. They add like 6 at a time, whilst opening the majority of them to shell FC abuse. Say what you will about how I worded it, but it's objectively short-sighted to say the least.

[Corvus_V]

Many people have proposed instanced housing as a solution to this problem, but I've yet to see anyone satisfactorily explain how outdoor decorative items, a core feature of the housing system, would work in a system like that.

Instanced Housing, so you can spend 50m and buy a large size, 20m on a medium size, or 3m on a small size house on a homestead with an exterior and interior that is the functional equivalent of a plot, with a customizable backdrop for each current zone in the form of a city dwelling, and a wilderness dwelling. i.e) Empyreum house/Coerthas Western house. Lavender Beds House/Haukke Manor. Mists House/Beach House. Goblet House/Forgotten Springs. Shirogane/Yanxia. Wouldn't even have to design a new interior for each zone, just a small exterior area, with an invisible wall akin to a skybox.

Would affect the servers to the same extent Island Sanctuary did, since it'd just be loaded whenever you're there, and you could have entry points in various overworld zones with a short alpha-numeric location code for people to visit (if you allow it.) It'd singlehandedly destroy all value in ward RMT, shell FCs, and housing grief. It'd be an absolutely massive gil-sink. There's literally a million reasons to do it and none not to

If I can own a house, an apartment, an FC apartment, an FC house, and a private island all on one character, I can own an instanced house with 2 zones. If every player is theoretically or allegedly capable of doing this, even with a small, then it exists in a state where this isn't an issue. If "server space" or something is a problem, which is doubtful, then make it so you cant own one in addition to apartments, as they're/would-be functionally the same.

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Their approach to the current situation, while ultimately still shitty, .. metering demand without creating ghost wards...

You're not saying it's impossible, but some people are.

I understand that this is easier said than done, but I'm not arguing with people who say its impossible because they don't know what they're saying. Yes, it'd be best if it existed concurrently so no one loses anything. What would be the point of going for smalls or mediums in the neighborhood? There wouldn't be, unless you couldn't afford a large. Or maybe you care so strongly about the idea of a neighborhood setting, you end up in a ward full of other people who feel the same way, and it doesn't end up like the ghost towns they are right now whether the plots fill or not. It's taken me over 3 years to see the people who live consecutive to my house whether I do a B&E or wander the ward or stand in my yard. If I'm lucky there's ever like 2 or 3 people near their houses when I look. It's not a neighborhood.