Ungendered sit poses, please?

[VerdeLuck]

W o w. Had a feeling this was going to come out at some point, but so quickly is a surprise. Newsflash: no one is saying remove the feminine stuff, and besides, the reinforcement of gendernorms is antifeminist in its essence. But that's not what the point of this is.

We are asking for more options for presentation that you do not have to engage in. And if it's such an issue, the cpose roulette could be changed to match the minion one where you choose what gets included.

We are literally asking for options that you do not need to participate in. Keep your feminine highlander, this isn't about you this is about people who actually want this implemented for their own sake and comfort.

what you're asking for is for them to strip what makes different races and genders in this game unique because you want all the options on your single character. Make a male character if you want to use their stuff so bad.

[Gemina]

W o w. Had a feeling this was going to come out at some point, but so quickly is a surprise. Newsflash: no one is saying remove the feminine stuff, and besides, the reinforcement of gendernorms is antifeminist in its essence. But that's not what the point of this is.

We are asking for more options for presentation that you do not have to engage in. And if it's such an issue, the cpose roulette could be changed to match the minion one where you choose what gets included.

No one said you're trying to strip the female avatars of their femininity. Leave your strawmen in the shed.

And speaking of having a feeling this would come out, that is exactly how I felt when I read the patch notes, as I knew that before long, players such as yourself would be asking for more options despite the fact that they've just given you more, including all of the gender unlocks to a ton of glamour gear, which undoubtedly leads to posts like yours.

This isn't about having more options, this is about you thinking you have some sort of entitlement to having access to everything because you're a paying subscriber somehow grants you that privilege. I have news for you: it doesn't. Your time isn't any more valuable than mine, the next person, or the development team. You really need to let that sink in, and stop letting feelings of exclusion ruin your experience in the game. You've turned this into much more than my simple opinion where I said females manspreading is disgusting, and I still do. I'm not spouting that like it's a fact. But you're arguing as if I am.

We are literally asking for options that you do not need to participate in. Keep your feminine highlander, this isn't about you this is about people who actually want this implemented for their own sake and comfort.

For their own sake and comfort? Good lord, I think I am just going to stop right here. If you literally cannot enjoy the game because your feelings of entitlement lead to exclusivity ruining your experience, you might need to reflect on why you're playing the game in the first place.

Here. Let this image of my female Midlander spell out F-e-m-i-n-i-n-e for you.

[crystallineAbyss]

Neither of those are manspread poses, and for females it is actually quite feminine to be in this position. Underwear is also completely concealed as would not be the case if a female avatar manspreads while wearing one of the game's many skirts. Please grow up.

You do realize that players who want this have characters that often wear pants right? Like, this isn't miniskirt wearers asking for manspreading.

[crystallineAbyss]

what you're asking for is for them to strip what makes different races and genders in this game unique because you want all the options on your single character. Make a male character if you want to use their stuff so bad.

So the new sits are bad then because they're identical across all races? With your logic, that is.

The kneeling sit is also identical across everybody. And they just unlocked a bunch of clothing for male and female characters.

I'm just asking for options. Not the removal of unique stuff, just more universal options on top of the existing unique stuff. And it's nothing you need to engage in.

[crystallineAbyss]

One of the more common requests on here is asking for male viera hair on all races and genders so I really can't believe that it's not about just taking things that make the races and genders unique one by one.
I have had the "I wish I had that" but then I realize I have things to my own race or gender that are cool and I forget about it. I can't wear hats, I can't use a lot of glam options, but I have some that are great, and I just use those.

The thing is I don't want what's unique about my characters gender and race taken away from it. If Miqo and Aura have the same options as I do but also have hats and legacy armor glam, why would I ever play viera?

This isn't even about racially unique animations, this is about gendered animations. The sits are identical across the female characters except maybe Lalas, and same with the men. This would not touch the racially unique stuff, it would just ADD more universal options. I'm not saying give femra the male Miqo sit, I'm saying let female and male characters have unrestricted access to all four of the new sit emotes.

[VerdeLuck]

This isn't even about racially unique animations, this is about gendered animations. The sits are identical across the female characters except maybe Lalas, and same with the men. This would not touch the racially unique stuff, it would just ADD more universal options. I'm not saying give femra the male Miqo sit, I'm saying let female and male characters have unrestricted access to all four of the new sit emotes.

You seem to be focused on the race part but it's the same for the gender portion. If female characters have the same animations and poses as my male character what's the point? what's the point in having a male character over a female one? They have the same glams, they have the same poses, what's the big reason?

[GTK0HLK]

One of the more common requests on here is asking for male viera hair on all races and genders so I really can't believe that it's not about just taking things that make the races and genders unique one by one.
I have had the "I wish I had that" but then I realize I have things to my own race or gender that are cool and I forget about it. I can't wear hats, I can't use a lot of glam options, but I have some that are great, and I just use those.

The thing is I don't want what's unique about my characters gender and race taken away from it. If Miqo and Aura have the same options as I do but also have hats and legacy armor glam, why would I ever play viera?

TLDR: you use the specific random situations that can either be specific to those topics, or you can twist and misconstrue to push your own ideal that you seem to put on others.


an actual solution that is both a QoL, and beneficial to all who don't want to see it..,
is to upgrade the whole emote UI menu, allow us to select which idles/sit emotes to not have in the change pose wheel, as well as have the option to toggle on, other genders and/or races emotes.(how many or what can be left to debate, but there is no real loss or gain, even when it comes to "Race Specialty" <it just comes off as many in the past would call Snowflaking, but instead of others wanting to be, you both are projecting your potential loss of specialty>)

[VerdeLuck]

TLDR: you use the specific random situations that can either be specific to those topics, or you can twist and misconstrue to push your own ideal that you seem to put on others.


an actual solution that is both a QoL, and beneficial to all who don't want to see it..,
is to upgrade the whole emote UI menu, allow us to select which idles/sit emotes to not have in the change pose wheel, as well as have the option to toggle on, other genders and/or races emotes.(how many or what can be left to debate, but there is no real loss or gain, even when it comes to "Race Specialty" <it just comes off as many in the past would call Snowflaking, but instead of others wanting to be, you both are projecting your potential loss of specialty>)

This is a whole lot of projection and assumptions just because I have a different opinon than you do.

Having races and genders be different is fine and good in the game, it makes playing one character feel different than the other. For example, it makes up for a lot of the limitations of my male viera character that I have male glams and viera exclusive hairstyles and animations.
If those weren't exclusive then there would be no reason to play it and I'd have to pay 10 dollars to get off what would be an objectively inferior race. Same for gender in this game, male characters get far less options for glam in this game as well as some bad animations here and there, and the few good ones they get being great make up for it.

[crystallineAbyss]

You seem to be focused on the race part but it's the same for the gender portion. If female characters have the same animations and poses as my male character what's the point? what's the point in having a male character over a female one? They have the same glams, they have the same poses, what's the big reason?

Buddy, you brought race into this. And again: they've been adding more universal animations to cutscenes anyways as a default.

And the answer is really simple: preference. I prefer the way my character looks. I prefer many aspects of my female au ra. I'm just simply asking that the pretense of ungendering clothing like the Valentione suit and dress extends to these Four Emotes. That's it. I'm not saying remove your viera male, I'm asking for the sits to be universal. Four sitting animations. That's it.

[GTK0HLK]

This is a whole lot of projection and assumptions just because I have a different opinon than you do.

Having races and genders be different is fine and good in the game, it makes playing one character feel different than the other. For example, it makes up for a lot of the limitations of my male viera character that I have male glams and viera exclusive hairstyles and animations.
If those weren't exclusive then there would be no reason to play it and I'd have to pay 10 dollars to get off what would be an objectively inferior race.

Using projections as a card only works if you make sense..,
all you've said is others claims on different topics that have general different directions, or can be misconstrued/twisted like you have to benefit your opinion<which it is> saying players want to rip race specialty. when most want to make more options available, and I gave an additional QoL with my topic. Which you ignored. [which seems more like you want to come out on top, which is supported by you bringing in things from other topics which can be taken wrong out of full context]

Races will always be different and special.
you replies can be attributed to people crying appropriating. which isn't the intention, or a goal.

I have multiple alts and they all feel different. even if they had everything available to them all.

it all ends up subjective on that part.

[no one reasonable in its basic meaning would see you going against a QoL/Game Enhancing options as Enhancing the base/differing feelings of the races. only to needlessly detract or prevent the game from improving on many topics. which you can't deny as many here testify to your singular direction in other topics]