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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Lalafells also have that new sitting /cpose that Miqo'te and Viera female got, BTW.
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    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Lalafells also have that new sitting /cpose that Miqo'te and Viera female got, BTW.
    Yes, 1 new animation per gender is shared by all members
    I can see how the way I wrote it was confusing, In total it'd be 9 animations if you count lalafell but I don't think the ARR npc leg kicking sit would transfer over well to anyone that isn't the size of a potato.
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    I pay my sub to avoid the woke content after work. SE is doing it right by not pandering the mob. The moment I see woke stuff in FF14 is the moment I boycott.
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    I'm guessing you missed the entire zone of nonbinary Fae folk who go by they/them, the Steppe Xaela Au Ra lore about gender, the new female NPC who uses male emotes and weapon poses and, well, the list of a hundred glamours that are no longer gender exclusive including dresses, high heels and bathing suits. I think you're a bit late on cancelling your sub, lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    I'm guessing you missed the entire zone of nonbinary Fae folk who go by they/them, the Steppe Xaela Au Ra lore about gender, the new female NPC who uses male emotes and weapon poses and, well, the list of a hundred glamours that are no longer gender exclusive including dresses, high heels and bathing suits. I think you're a bit late on cancelling your sub, lmao.
    Or the gay miqo and highlander from the Wanderer's Palace Hard unlock, or the Rising npc from the year before who talked about her wife. Or the fact there are many black and brown elves in this game.
    Why are they playing this when women can run around in pants, men in dresses, and same gendered players can marry each other.
    god forbid someone wants more inclusive animation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    I'm guessing you missed the entire zone of nonbinary Fae folk who go by they/them, the Steppe Xaela Au Ra lore about gender, the new female NPC who uses male emotes and weapon poses and, well, the list of a hundred glamours that are no longer gender exclusive including dresses, high heels and bathing suits. I think you're a bit late on cancelling your sub, lmao.
    Last I checked these are all NPCs whose feelings aren't getting hurt by exclusive sitting poses. That would be the overly sensitive folk within this thread.

    Those who are against blurring and obscuring the lines that define one sex from another aren't complaining about those NPCs and situations in the game. We may not support those decisions, but it is what is and we move on.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 01-24-2023 at 08:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Last I checked these are all NPCs whose feelings aren't getting hurt by exclusive sitting poses. That would be the overly sensitive folk within this thread.

    Those who are against blurring and obscuring the lines that define one sex from another aren't complaining about those NPCs and situations in the game. We may not support those decisions, but it is what is and we move on.
    Mostly because all of that isn't constantly and blatantly shoved in our faces at all times.

    In the case of the fae, they aren't even human so appying the human binary on them wouldn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Last I checked these are all NPCs whose feelings aren't getting hurt by exclusive sitting poses. That would be the overly sensitive folk within this thread.

    Those who are against blurring and obscuring the lines that define one sex from another aren't complaining about those NPCs and situations in the game. We may not support those decisions, but it is what is and we move on.
    Yet you said
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    On the opposite end, I was quite happy with how feminine my new poses are, and that my character can embrace her own femininity. I couldn't even begin to tell you how much I would hate it if my character just manspreaded, forcing me to cpose out of it. Disgusting.
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    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
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    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    I'm not arguing semantics. Much of what I said is factual. Nowhere did I claim poses are the biggest factor but they are a big one that's quite noticeable. You're missing the point. Obviously highlanders and au'ras will always look different, the point is said races should have more things unique them than simply how they look physically. They should retain exclusive access to their own gear, poses and emotes.

    Oh and btw I said the side asking to make things neutral are trying to forgo the uniqueness already present to make things unique only in the way they personally want
    Both sides are trying to claim they're arguing from a point of wanting uniqueness, so that's not getting us anywhere. That's the semantics problem here. Your idea of uniqueness is boring and odd character limitations in my eyes. My idea of uniqueness is devaluing the point of distinct races in your eyes.

    Your comment on forgoing existing uniqueness only came about after I replied to you. Your original comment was

    "Don't yall know by now? Many won't be satisfied til nothing is tied to a gender n the game is fully neutral. Wanting things to stay as they currently are n wanting some uniqueness is "cringe n sickening".

    Wake up people "

    Maybe you still meant the same thing, but I read that was wanting uniqueness is seen as cringe. It's not, as character uniqueness is what I want to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Wait, what "role" are you being "forced" to play? That's one of the weirdest takes I've heard on here yet.
    When it comes to locked emotes, your character is basically locked or forced into a given personality. Highlander emotes are all expressive and non subtle for instance. You may desire to play a highlander that is less emotional or very formal, but then your emotes don't fit.

    That why people don't like locked emotes, etc. In a game where you're supposed to define your character, why are we arbitrarily limited to a handful of options? Especially when the developers only have finite resources. Some people have suggested just making more exclusive poses, but I feel like that's such a waste. The developers go through the effort of making 50 poses, maybe 5 of which are perfect for your character, but you can't have them because reasons and instead get 5 poses that mean absolutely nothing to you. Just give us all 50 and let us choose what's best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Those who are against blurring and obscuring the lines that define one sex from another...
    I wouldn't consider how I sit to have anything to do with defining my sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Will we need an "other" gender in the game for folks who feel "forced" to pick between male or female currently? Surely you see what's wrong with that logic?
    If people want it I'm not against it, although one difference here, the devs may very well put more work on themselves separating emotes and poses than by just giving them to everyone. How true that is depends on how the game is coded, but we know that emotes can work for everyone. The most basic request in this thread is pretty trivial in terms of what it demands from the devs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I mean, if comfort varies from person to person then that level of comfort is unique to that person, no?
    It's funny how on point this is. This is the crux of the entire thread. That people vary on an individual basis, yet in game this sometimes isn't captured because of locked content.

    As for my take on the whole thing: I feel like it's unecessary to have every thing needing to be distributed to every race/gender/role/what have you, but if they did it wholey wouldn't bother me.
    Video games as a whole are unnecessary in the first place. This isn't about need as much as it is wanting a better game. I feel like if players are being given the choice to create their characters, we shouldn't have to deal with arbitrary limits. Male and female range of motion is nearly identical. It makes gendered emotes just seem weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    I'm guessing you missed the entire zone of nonbinary Fae folk who go by they/them, the Steppe Xaela Au Ra lore about gender, the new female NPC who uses male emotes and weapon poses and, well, the list of a hundred glamours that are no longer gender exclusive including dresses, high heels and bathing suits. I think you're a bit late on cancelling your sub, lmao.
    Yes, the person who was literally a voidsent is suddenly defining themselves as nonbinary. Obviously. Because that's important. And the Faefolk clearly care about gender and not other things.

    Lol. Lmao
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    Last edited by Enjuden; 01-24-2023 at 02:10 PM.

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