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    Ungendered sit poses, please?

    I have no idea where to put this but it's greatly bugging me. When the new sit /cposes came out, I was really hoping that - like with the gear - that it'd be equal. But finding out that female players couldn't use the 2 new male sits and vice versa was extremely frustrating. I know there's the kneeling pose, but plenty of people who play female characters would love the manspread sit, and many people who play the male characters would want the dainty sit we got.
    Preferably a toggle would work significantly better so we could actually choose what we do (because my god, I would choose the female highlander animations for my female au ra any day), but at least let girls manspread? Please?

    EDIT: To hit major points already said in this thread:
    -This would not take away anything
    -This would not encroach on racial animations (they weren't in this discussion to begin with)
    -This only applies to the 4 new sitting emotes
    -No one is forcing you to use these. It'd just be there for those who want it
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    Last edited by crystallineAbyss; 01-22-2023 at 07:52 PM.

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    On the opposite end, I was quite happy with how feminine my new poses are, and that my character can embrace her own femininity. I couldn't even begin to tell you how much I would hate it if my character just manspreaded, forcing me to cpose out of it. Disgusting.
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    ...And your point is? I'm asking for options, not total replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crystallineAbyss View Post
    ...And your point is? I'm asking for options, not total replacement.
    I'm not under the wrong impression. I know you're asking for more options, and not replacement. I'm merely expressing my opinion that females manspreading is disgusting, and I don't want my character doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I'm not under the wrong impression. I know you're asking for more options, and not replacement. I'm merely expressing my opinion that females manspreading is disgusting, and I don't want my character doing it.
    This feedback isn't very constructive. There's no real reason for not unlocking poses like this. If things got shut down just for the idea of it being "disgusting" and "unsightly" nothing would get put in this game! And if you personally don't want to see your character doing it simply don't use the sit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    How does supporting femininity make me a misogynist? Do you even know what this word means? Clearly you do not, and love to use buzz words instead of thinking for yourself.

    I am expressing an opinion, and if you want to spend time on the internet, I would highly suggest learning to deal that there are people who not only do not support your views, but outright oppose them.


    Not that simple. There is currently not an option to avoid using particular poses. If this was a thing, and I want my character to cpose after several seconds, she would do this. Not to mention what online pervs would do if my character was in this position, and I decide to afk using a sitting pose at the MGS while waiting for jumbo cacpot to run.


    Stop making mountains out of molehills. Also learn that constructive feedback =/= only feedback that agrees with the OP. I happen to like to sit. I usually do it when I AFK for a bio break, to grab a drink, or when I am putting together a gathering list for a crafting session. Why should I lose this because some players want their female characters to behave like dudes, while the option exists for you to just select a male avatar?

    The lot of you need to realize that not everyone is on board the agenda to abolish gender norms, especially when it comes to development time in FFXIV. I would sooner have them unlock the cposes that are exclusive to other races, but I don't really support that either.
    Be for real you're not even gonna lose it. It's just a simple animation addition. And again if you don't like it don't use it. Having masculine emotes on your character doesn't make them not cute and dainty like you want them to be. It's just about seeing your own character, which is also what you want as well. This is hardly a mountain, even less a molehill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I'm not under the wrong impression. I know you're asking for more options, and not replacement. I'm merely expressing my opinion that females manspreading is disgusting, and I don't want my character doing it.
    Meanwhile females already manspreading when they use Fat Chocobo or Ozma mount
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Meanwhile females already manspreading when they use Fat Chocobo or Ozma mount
    Neither of those are manspread poses, and for females it is actually quite feminine to be in this position. Underwear is also completely concealed as would not be the case if a female avatar manspreads while wearing one of the game's many skirts. Please grow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I'm not under the wrong impression. I know you're asking for more options, and not replacement. I'm merely expressing my opinion that females manspreading is disgusting, and I don't want my character doing it.
    Yeah, females! Don't you know that sitting with your legs far apart is DISGUSTING? We can see your crotch if you do that!!!

    this is ok

    but

    females sitting like this?



    Female manspreading is *disgusting*. Don't ever do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Because the devlopers intend each race/gender to be portrayed as a certain way and that's the main draw for people pick those races/genders. A small outlier of people wanting their character to go against those norms isn't justification enough to open up all emotes to everyone.
    "small number" says who? how many people did you poll for "small number" lmao.
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    Last edited by Padudu; 01-24-2023 at 03:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Yeah, females! Don't you know that sitting with your legs far apart is DISGUSTING? We can see your crotch if you do that!!!

    this is ok

    but

    females sitting like this?



    Female manspreading is *disgusting*. Don't ever do it.
    Potatoes don't count. We all know they're genderless.

    Jokes aside, that's far from manspreading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    is this too masculine to sit then?

    and idk man, depending on the skirts you will 100000% get a pantyshot in, even as a lala. It doesn't matter if it's truly manspreading or not, my point is that the sits are hardly gendered to begin with, so why are they genderlocked? They are unlocking the gender for the outfits, you might as well do it for the idles and sits.


    is this masculine or feminine? Manspreading? Idk I guess a woman bending her knees whilst her arms are in the front is pretty disgusting and unfeminine-like..
    Seein as those characters are both male I guess that answers your question for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    "small number" says who? how many people did you poll for "small number" lmao.
    You do realize the forums makes up a tiny percentage of the player base right?
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    Last edited by Joven; 01-24-2023 at 04:01 PM.


    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

    #ottergate

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