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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindu View Post
    I dont think they devs are racist or bigoted or hindu haters, i think they just copy pasted nagas from blizzard.
    Video games have been doing this long before WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindu View Post
    i think they just copy pasted nagas from blizzard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindu View Post
    I can understand Blizzard a western company showing Snakes/Nagas (Hindu word for snakes) as Hindus (as they have Hindu names) but I thought this game is made by people from east and will be more culturally sensitive, not so?
    Two things:

    1) Isn't it culturally insensitive to treat an entire continent of people who all see themselves as rather distinct as one block? (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Pacific Islanders, Indochina, the India subcontinent, Indonesia, the Middle-East, and even (most of) Russia are all part of Asia/"the east"...and they certainly don't consider themselves to be one monolithic blob...)

    2) Uh...you DO realize the West (specifically the political left in the West) is hypersensitive about racism, cultural appropreation, and cultural insensitivity...but the rest of the world is not, right? Most of the rest of the world either abuses the West's self-flagellation over the issues or outright mocks the West over it, and in the worst cases, uses it as a shield (e.g. China deflecting US concerns about their treatment of the Uighur Muslims in effectively concentration camps by mocking/accusing the US of being unfair to black people citing the BLM movement, George Floyd's death, and the US Administration/President's past stance on those issues attacking the US - China basically used US left-wing attacks against the US to deflect so they could continue running concentration camps - if that's not the worst case scenario...)

    The rest of the world doesn't care. Large swaths of the rest of the world are horribly, horribly racist, far more than places like the US or Europe are. If you want cultural sensitivity, stay in the West. The rest of the world doesn't practice it nearly as much, generally speaking.

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    And as an aside - do you even know how these various peoples represent themselves? Russians as bears or China as a dragon are their own representations, just as the US with the Eagle and Uncle Sam or the British with the Lion. What do you know of these diverse cultures that you think they specifically would be offended or you should be offended on their behalf?

    Maybe let them be offended on their own if they find these things offensive, and if they find them a representation they enjoy, let them have that. Speedy Gonzales was bought up and taken off the air by people who thought he was offensive to Mexicans. The thing is, Mexicans liked the character and saw in him a representation of them and their culture - he was portrayed as the hero in his cartoons against Tom the cat. Taking him off the air would be akin to buying up all the black Barbie dolls and removing them from toy stores "to prevent offense", when all that hypersensitivity would do is make it where little black girls couldn't buy a doll that looked like them.

    The Goblins in WoW more or less represent Capitalist Americans. And I'm perfectly fine with that. Let other people be offended if they wish to be, and be offended for only yourself if you wish to be. But recognize your right to be offended is not one that would be given the time of day to you outside of the West you look down on vs the East which dislikes it far more than anyone in the West does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindu View Post
    So why did Charlie Hebdo attack happened if it's just NA thing? and why FF14 named a character Bahamut but kept the current day Pagan Gods in current day real world names without using fictional names?
    Charlie Hebdo wasn't about cultural insensitivity.

    It was about an extremist sect of a religion being an extremist sect of a religion. It'd be like if an extremist Christian sect (say the Westboro people or something) attacked and murdered the guy who made "art" of Jesus where he peed and...spread other fluids and waste products of his body on it and called it art.

    They aren't culturally sensitive, they're religious extremists who were pissed at free people in a free nation not bowing to their dictates. Rather a different can of worms there.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 01-21-2023 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindu View Post
    I can understand Blizzard a western company showing Snakes/Nagas (Hindu word for snakes) as Hindus (as they have Hindu names) but I thought this game is made by people from east and will be more culturally sensitive, not so?
    What stupid BS are you going on about?
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    I too want Westerners deciding for me, a Hindu Indian, what is culturally insensitive.

    PS, any India-influenced content in this game: Lakshmi, entirety of Thavnair, Matanga/Arkasodara, are content I adore. Just wish it'd translate to SQEX treating South Asia as an actual place with customers that exist.
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    Cheers, I needed a good laugh. lol

    I think someone was bored at work or something.
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    You need to check your debuff for poison (green puddle) or gaze (orange cone). You'll also see I or II next to it which tells you if you're on first snake set or second snake set duty. The snakes themselves will gaze from either cardinals or intercardinals when they spawn in two at a time and the second two always spawn directly opposite from the first two. If you're a melee or tank you'll need to pay attention to your assigned flex partner. If your debuff matches that of your flex partner your gaze/kill priority changes from either clockwise starting at N cardinal or counter clockwise starting at NW intercardinal. Make sure you don't greed your gcds too much or you'll probably wipe the group. I assume this question is only about Snakes 1. Hope this helps!
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    It's not just that they've been doing this since FF1. The source for A LOT of FF1 stuff was Dungeons and Dragons.

    Because that's ironically what FF1 was. The devs' electronic version of a DnD game. In all its incredibly glitchy glory.

    And like... "Shouldn't the East be more culturally sensitive?", from Japan? You serious?

    We're talking about a country who stayed isolated from the rest of the world for centuries (Sakoku).
    We're talking about a country whose spin on Buddhism involves looking at a woman and calling them "downgrades" and "Blood Impurities", which on its own goes against what Buddhism is all about.
    We're talking about a country whose ethnic background involves what's now modern Korea, yet Koreans were considered barbarians until very, stupidly recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    But... Can I bring my snake on a plane?
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 01-22-2023 at 01:47 AM.

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