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    Alltara's Avatar
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    Dagasi Aru
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    Pity system for lottery

    I've joined every single lottery now and lost every single one, while i cant say im happy about it rng is rng in the end. But its been an entire year now of trying to upgrade from my small, and by now im getting really scared because as it stands there is no guarantee ill get it whether i keep doing this for one year or five years. As such i hope we'd get some level of guarantee for us not blessed by lady luck by adding a pity system.
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    I've lost 41 myself between personal and FC. It's just completely heartbreaking to have been trying since ARR for a house and constantly failing. People always say "Just transfer!" but you shouldn't have to sacrifice being on a server with your friends/FC just to get something that every other Modern MMO (That isn't ArcheAge or Albion online...who have/had the same problem) has had seemingly no trouble with.

    Just outright double the amount of plots. Who cares if some stay empty? That means new players won't have to worry about it.
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alltara View Post
    I've joined every single lottery now and lost every single one, while i cant say im happy about it rng is rng in the end. But its been an entire year now of trying to upgrade from my small, and by now im getting really scared because as it stands there is no guarantee ill get it whether i keep doing this for one year or five years. As such i hope we'd get some level of guarantee for us not blessed by lady luck by adding a pity system.
    Your Pity system wouldnt work. Because you wont be the only one with your suggested "Bad Luck Protection" to enter the next lottery. There will be others with the same "Bad Luck Protection" which are going to enter your lottery. So its still making sense to let it be 1 ticket per Personal.
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    The-avatar Kyoshi
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    I have lost 30 consecutive cycles, and decided this was the final one. Tired of being homeless in game. I unsubscribed a few minutes ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi30 View Post
    I have lost 30 consecutive cycles, and decided this was the final one. Tired of being homeless in game. I unsubscribed a few minutes ago.
    Are you really homeless in the game? There are free inn rooms, FC chambers, and apartments. If you want to be really bold, I'm sure Daddy Manderville would let you sleep in The Gold Saucer.
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaalHenrik View Post
    Are you really homeless in the game? There are free inn rooms, FC chambers, and apartments. If you want to be really bold, I'm sure Daddy Manderville would let you sleep in The Gold Saucer.
    The issue with suggestions like yours is this. There is a housing feature in the game. It comes *as part of the game*. Everyone who plays the game pays (for the most part) the same monthly fees to accesss *the same features of the game.* So if someone wants to access a feature that should be considered included in the price of the montly sub, and through no error on their end, but rather due to poor development, they cannot, then yeah, after awhile, it gets very very old.

    An apartment -is not the same.
    A FC room -is not the same (and requires access to the fc/that your fc doesn't kick you out)
    An inn room -is most assuredly not the same.
    The gold saucer -is not even a living space.

    Yes, you can point to people on over-crowded and/or legacy servers and be like 'well you should move to a quieter one if housing is so important.' But that can place them off a data center that works for their playtimes, seperate them from friends, fc's and statics and isn't actually addressing the problem that was never player created but always is player punitive.

    Yes, you can point out that some people should be thankful for what they have...but why? Why should someone be thankful for an apartment, when someone else, got lucky and got a house? Or why should someone with a small who wants a medium feel they aren't justified in wanting it? When the only reason they do not have it, is simple luck of the draw?

    And the walk of shame back....that is honestly the most defeating, customer unfriendly feature of them all. Who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to have people build up hope, that *finally* they might get something, only for them to have to collect their gil and then turn away, again empty handed....and again looking at what they lost, and many times, seeing someone excitedly making use of that same spot....someone you can't even be mad at because hey, a different roll of the dice and that could be you and not them.

    But it still boils down to, people pay to play this game. Every other feature, if you want to do it, you can. There is a way. Through building a team, through leveling, through gear, through practice, through grind perhaps yes, but there is a way, and a way *the player themselves has 100% control of their progress and success.* Housing is none of these things.

    So yes, the person you quoted, being so disheartened after trying so long to 'win' basically a bet, and finally giving up, is right to be disappointed and disgusted. And suggesting that they simply suck it up and accept anything less is honestly, quite belittling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    And the walk of shame back....that is honestly the most defeating, customer unfriendly feature of them all. Who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to have people build up hope, that *finally* they might get something, only for them to have to collect their gil and then turn away, again empty handed....and again looking at what they lost, and many times, seeing someone excitedly making use of that same spot....someone you can't even be mad at because hey, a different roll of the dice and that could be you and not them.
    Considering the game has an in game mail system, you'd think it'd be easy to program a return of money so you don't physically have to look at the house you just lost for the xth amount of times. They don't use the in game mail feature, or they can't because of spaghetti code, I don't know. But we can't even get that courtesy, it seems.
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruminous View Post
    Considering the game has an in game mail system, you'd think it'd be easy to program a return of money so you don't physically have to look at the house you just lost for the xth amount of times. They don't use the in game mail feature, or they can't because of spaghetti code, I don't know. But we can't even get that courtesy, it seems.
    They don't mail due to capping mail at 1million gil per mail as a rmt lessening measure. I would think though a pop up once results posted would work. 'hey you won! go interact with the signboard to complete the transaction!' or 'we're sorry entry 1 won, you were 2, here's your refund'. ---but my suspicion with why this isn't added (and also one of the reasons the walk of shame irks me more) is because they kinda hope and want some players to bid and forget to collect their gil in the window, therefore making it a bit of a gil sink for non winners too.
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    Kyros Orsidius
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaalHenrik View Post
    Are you really homeless in the game? There are free inn rooms, FC chambers, and apartments. If you want to be really bold, I'm sure Daddy Manderville would let you sleep in The Gold Saucer.
    Apartments are ridiculous in size. Like it should be called maid room, not apartment. Can’t upgrade it.
    Small house is similar too, it’s basically an apartment x2.

    FC room are temporary, in case of drama, it’s 300k down the drain. No thanks.

    I know you’re joking but inn rooms? Can’t place furniture in them. At least stay consistent with your examples.
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    Alba Tenebris
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    How about that pity? People without houses have a prio before people that have a House already? :P
    Would be great. Less crying then from the loss. More crying for the douches that cry about getting no House when they already own one :3
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