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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Sanction Crit atk power+120 body is coming
    Would much rather spend some gil to make my own 120+ Tunic than have to run to the GC and pay every 3 hours.
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    So what do you want to point out in this thread? To say that DL is better? or to say that GC mix is better?
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    Last edited by Alise; 06-14-2012 at 04:23 PM.

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    Lieutenant gear is available now? >.>
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    Heavy Darklight Gauntlets are the best gloves for tank, so not a big deal.
    For War regular Darklight Gauntlets are better.
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    I notice alot of people bashing on DL gear, but no one is really examining DL gear in detail, that being said I am only going to make 1 comparison that I noticed someone else make but I think did not do it justice.

    So you've got a double melded STR glove for your war? Grats. The highest you could possibly get would be +40 with a double meld. Not a bad number, not bad at all.

    Now let's look at Darklight Gauntlets for war. +9 str +25 vit +50 attackpower. Not bad, not bad.
    BUT ASH IT DOESNT HAVE +40STRZOMGSTATCAP!
    True, true. But lets look at the piece as a whole.
    +9 str, thats basically a higher end Tier 2 STR materia, so thats 1 meld.
    +25 vitality, thats basically 2 low-mid end Tier 3 VIT materia, so thats 2 melds.
    +50 attack power, thats basically 2 low-mid end Tier 4 Attack materia, so thats 2 melds.
    Now right here we have 5 melds that you would need to get this gears stats.

    But Ash thats still not +40 str!
    Yes yes I know. But lets examine what stats a war needs most. STR, VIT, Attackpower. Pretty much the 3 stats you get on those DL gauntlets.

    Now I'm not gonna go do any testing and I'm not gonna pull random numbers out of my ass. But just from looking at the stats in comparison, for overall effectiveness the DL Gauntlets are superior IMO.

    A similar comparison can be made of all the war DL pieces I'm sure, but its 5 AM and I'm not in the mood to type much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    STR, Accuracy, Attackpower. Pretty much the 3 stats you get on those DL gauntlets.
    fixed, War doesn't need to prioritze vit because it's so easy to cap :/
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    Garuda's Scream + Explorer's Choker + Double +18 ACC rings is the standard for a war that doesnt suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    Garuda's Scream + Explorer's Choker + Double +18 ACC rings is the standard for a war that doesnt suck.
    I use Mog Axe + Ex Choker + 2x 18STR rings, with FPB I hardly ever miss

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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    Garuda's Scream + Explorer's Choker + Double +18 ACC rings is the standard for a war that doesnt suck.
    I wasn't aware accuracy rings were "the standard". Capping stats first seems to be the standard, then accuracy and attack. If you want some accuracy eat some accuracy food. Why? Because you can eat food and get +34 accuracy (electrum rings +1 x2 = +36), but you cannot eat food and get STR+36 (ie. Rubellite Rings +1 x2). The accuracy rings with scream and choker are almost overkill on most encounters. Can't go in thinking the way you are geared is the best way all the time. Most mobs aren't as evasive as Garuda, and with ~420 accuracy, minuet, and food, I've no trouble hitting her. Don't need nearly that much for Princess or Miser's Mistress

    I guess your standard is different, which doesn't make it "the standard" btw. This post of yours shows how much improvement you need to make:


    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    I notice alot of people bashing on DL gear, but no one is really examining DL gear in detail, that being said I am only going to make 1 comparison that I noticed someone else make but I think did not do it justice.

    So you've got a double melded STR glove for your war? Grats. The highest you could possibly get would be +40 with a double meld. Not a bad number, not bad at all.

    Now let's look at Darklight Gauntlets for war. +9 str +25 vit +50 attackpower. Not bad, not bad.
    BUT ASH IT DOESNT HAVE +40STRZOMGSTATCAP!
    True, true. But lets look at the piece as a whole.
    +9 str, thats basically a higher end Tier 2 STR materia, so thats 1 meld.
    +25 vitality, thats basically 2 low-mid end Tier 3 VIT materia, so thats 2 melds.
    +50 attack power, thats basically 2 low-mid end Tier 4 Attack materia, so thats 2 melds.
    Now right here we have 5 melds that you would need to get this gears stats.

    But Ash thats still not +40 str!
    Yes yes I know. But lets examine what stats a war needs most. STR, VIT, Attackpower. Pretty much the 3 stats you get on those DL gauntlets.

    Now I'm not gonna go do any testing and I'm not gonna pull random numbers out of my ass. But just from looking at the stats in comparison, for overall effectiveness the DL Gauntlets are superior IMO.

    A similar comparison can be made of all the war DL pieces I'm sure, but its 5 AM and I'm not in the mood to type much more.
    I'll tell you right now that if you were capped on STR and VIT with your +40 str hands, and then decided to use darklight gauntlets instead (probably for "cool" factor) and did not adjust your other gear (ie. swapping a rubellite ring for an amber ring), then you will be way over vit cap, way under str cap, and gain a lot of attack that will not make up for the 31 str you just lost.

    Now if you wear those and finagle your other gear to keep your stats capped and you gain just the attack +50, then you're good to go and actually pulling ahead of where you were. This is not a game where you can just do piece-for-piece swaps because one piece is better and then call it a day. Not even close and if you think that, you're doing it wrong.
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    Last edited by GreyJorildyn; 06-16-2012 at 02:27 PM.
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    lol...Acc rings [Do you have it?]
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