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  1. #21
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Generally speaking, I keep Shout and Yell in a separate tab. It helps with being spoiler free when new content comes out, since most channels I'd be reading are tells/FC, so spoilers are limited. When I rely on shouts/yells for communication, such as hunt trains, I switch to that tab (where tells/FC chat also shows up) for the duration. Then switch back.

    I can't control what other people do, such as how they use chat. But I can control my own actions (tabs). Easy.
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  2. #22
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    Auro_Seldaris's Avatar
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    Aurora Seldaris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazumi_Ametrine View Post
    I mean, as a venue owner myself, we try to limit where and when shouts are done. Yes they may teleport and shout then move onto the next location, but consider, it takes 20 minutes to get every major location where players are likely to be on every server in the data center. I would also like to point out that none of the venues receive any of the money that their particular DJ does, so it's not being done to promote the DJ (or at least not from what I've seen, there may be some shouts with DJ information). You've also got multiple venues vying for attention in the partyfinder. These are community events being held, and just because they're RP venues doesn't mean they should be considered less important than other community events such as hunt trains and the like.

    Now, while we recognize that yes it can get annoying for multiple shouts going out, we also know we can't please everyone. Limiting the chat would defeat the purpose of the chat. You may as well simply remove it entirely if you had weekly or daily limits. The entire purpose of shout chat is to advertise. Be it a hunt train, FC recruitment, or venue advertisement. No one to my knowledge actually uses shout chat unironically to actually chat with everyone.

    In short, I don't really see it hurting anyone. For me personally, there's so many shouts that I sort of just gloss over them, and I have a tab where shouts are turned off when I'm actively talking to individuals, talking in say chat, or talking to the FC. Then I have a tab that has literally everything and I actively switch between the two depending on what the situation calls for.
    My 4th chat tab is Party/Alliance/Linkshell/Tells only. I did this years ago during Shadowbringers to avoid people who were putting spoilers in Shout chat to be trolls. I still find it extremely useful to this day, to help me stay focused on certain things in very "chat-heavy" areas like cities, and also to avoid all the venue spam.
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  3. #23
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I just shut shouts and yells off and only click it back on for the occasional hunt runs. It would be nice to be able to have them turned on so I don't have to toggle them, but its just part of playing mmos, esp ones who cater to the rp crowd, so to me it's almost like an annoying mechanic that you just need to deal with. I have them shut off in XI too because of the ppl spamming chat with merc survices. I do wish there was a way to make a macro that turned on and off shout/yell, but if there is, I haven't found it yet. Now all I have to deal with in chat are the cringy "meowdy" players and the ppl who make a macro with 20 lines of symbols to make the same boring picture in chat that we have been seeing for the past 15 years, which are far worse than venue spammers imo since you cannot turn off party chat and the block keyword feature doesn't work in dungeons for some reason.
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  4. #24
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LewdCoffee View Post
    Recently came back to the game with the recent patch and while it was somewhat bad with World Travel I feel like shout chat is getting progressively more and more aggressive with how much "spam" is being pumped into it.

    While this is a personal problem, for some reason I just pass out at random times so I often have to tell people "Hey if I don't respond, give me an hour or two and I'll prob wake up and check my log". Before I can reach them though, over the course of an hour I'll see like 10 or 20 shouts advertising for the same thing just at a different location.
    I get people want to make income via twitch with DJ stuff but at the same time it's pretty annoying with just how repetitive and large some of these shouts are. I know there's been a lot of post throughout the forums time regarding shout chat but I really wish SE did something to limit it.

    Give the ERP venus/DJ/ "Draw your character on stream" people their own shout chat.
    " (insert some smug lala or miqo) just turn off shout chat 4head"
    As someone who occasionally conducts/scouts hunt trains/ occasionally joins in the "shot calling" in frontline" turning off and on shout chat would be somewhat of an inconvenience.

    If not that, while it wouldn't be a total fix, put a daily or weekly limit to shout chat. This won't stop much since I assume the people spamming these places are often just alts since my blacklist is currently full and I still see the same messages.
    While I don't know how it works now, I know TERA had a system where you had to spend money in order to shout. While I don't think this will do much at least it will force people to spend even more money to spam shout chat since I bet at least 50% or less are possible RMT users. (Not hard to find, just look at the funny "sprout" looking lovingling at players for a few minutes in Uldah's Atheryte or just check the MB on some low-level gear.)

    Either offer more support to these players by giving them a tab in pf/shout chat then people interested have a place to check and players like me don't have to deal with it or restrict it a little.
    They should just ban it in shout chat. I go to and even work at several venues and tbh when I'm looking for a new venue to go to I check party finder in the other tab. And that's where this should stay. These shouts don't pull in new venue goers because the only ppl playing rn don't care about venues or already use them via pf
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  5. #25
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    Voryn's Avatar
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    Voryn Thelas
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    They should just ban it in shout chat. I go to and even work at several venues and tbh when I'm looking for a new venue to go to I check party finder in the other tab. And that's where this should stay. These shouts don't pull in new venue goers because the only ppl playing rn don't care about venues or already use them via pf
    It would be really nice if venue ads were actually only in PF. When I’m making a party for raiding I don’t go to every city to shout about it. Why do venue events do both PF and shouting? It sounds like they don’t really have good reason to shout anyway.
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  6. #26
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    honestly the blacklist option is rather good since morst the time it block more then one character per character blocked. that's what I started doing because I do find it annoying myself not like don't don't advertise everywhere even want sprout to try out xx)
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  7. #27
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    Shiro Kuma'
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    Omega
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    Machinist Lv 100
    If venue ads were on PF only, it may have been fine.
    But remember those few years ago when we had people getting suspended for advertising their venue's in the Party finders others tab?
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    Last edited by Xactly; 02-20-2025 at 09:00 PM.

  8. #28
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xactly View Post
    If venue ads were on PF only, it may have been fine.
    But remember those few years ago when we had people getting suspended for advertising their venue's in the Party finders others tab?
    the problem.is some stuff did broke ToS sadly but still think it was to much ya the other reason most have moved to a site to advert themself
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