Regarding Shout Chat

[LewdCoffee]

Recently came back to the game with the recent patch and while it was somewhat bad with World Travel I feel like shout chat is getting progressively more and more aggressive with how much "spam" is being pumped into it.

While this is a personal problem, for some reason I just pass out at random times so I often have to tell people "Hey if I don't respond, give me an hour or two and I'll prob wake up and check my log". Before I can reach them though, over the course of an hour I'll see like 10 or 20 shouts advertising for the same thing just at a different location.
I get people want to make income via twitch with DJ stuff but at the same time it's pretty annoying with just how repetitive and large some of these shouts are. I know there's been a lot of post throughout the forums time regarding shout chat but I really wish SE did something to limit it.

Give the ERP venus/DJ/ "Draw your character on stream" people their own shout chat.
" (insert some smug lala or miqo) just turn off shout chat 4head"
As someone who occasionally conducts/scouts hunt trains/ occasionally joins in the "shot calling" in frontline" turning off and on shout chat would be somewhat of an inconvenience.

If not that, while it wouldn't be a total fix, put a daily or weekly limit to shout chat. This won't stop much since I assume the people spamming these places are often just alts since my blacklist is currently full and I still see the same messages.
While I don't know how it works now, I know TERA had a system where you had to spend money in order to shout. While I don't think this will do much at least it will force people to spend even more money to spam shout chat since I bet at least 50% or less are possible RMT users. (Not hard to find, just look at the funny "sprout" looking lovingling at players for a few minutes in Uldah's Atheryte or just check the MB on some low-level gear.)

Either offer more support to these players by giving them a tab in pf/shout chat then people interested have a place to check and players like me don't have to deal with it or restrict it a little.

[Renalt]

As much as I would like a separate channel for advertisements...they wouldn't use them. People would leave that channel or never join and after a day of noticing that they would go back to using the channels that they KNOW people would see it...thus /say and /shout.

[ThaCa]

I don't mind people from my own World occasionally advertising their things, as long as it isn't multiple characters spamming it way too often.

What I despise is people from other Worlds or Data Centers coming in to drop their spammy macro and teleporting to next destination like some bot.

Similarly, seeing multiple repeat ads in Party Finder is annoying spam, just put your one up and be done with it.

At least the people out themselves doing all this, makes it easy to blacklist them, but problem is eventually running out of list space.

[GTK0HLK]

of they do add a separate chat, it would have to be enforced, we already have bulletins we know in the other sections.

it should be just like if you post incorrectly in PF

[Kes13a]

what I do is put things I want to see, like fc, tells etc on the old Novice channel tab. I generally flip to that in the cities if its really bad or if I am crafting.

otherwise its on general which gets everything. flipping shout chat that way shouldnt interfere with your "shot calling" if you are shouting it.

[Thurmnmurmn]

This isn't the best solution but something you can do in the meantime is to use one of your 4 chat Windows and put only the shout chat on it. Then take shout chat off your general one. Voila! You now have a sh chat tab (which is pretty much an ad tab)

[Poporito_Popoto]

Is not hanging out in Limsa not an option?

[Anienai]

Is not hanging out in Limsa not an option?

Ul'dah is a poop hole and Gridania reminds me of Florida.

[Kazumi_Ametrine]

I mean, as a venue owner myself, we try to limit where and when shouts are done. Yes they may teleport and shout then move onto the next location, but consider, it takes 20 minutes to get every major location where players are likely to be on every server in the data center. I would also like to point out that none of the venues receive any of the money that their particular DJ does, so it's not being done to promote the DJ (or at least not from what I've seen, there may be some shouts with DJ information). You've also got multiple venues vying for attention in the partyfinder. These are community events being held, and just because they're RP venues doesn't mean they should be considered less important than other community events such as hunt trains and the like.

Now, while we recognize that yes it can get annoying for multiple shouts going out, we also know we can't please everyone. Limiting the chat would defeat the purpose of the chat. You may as well simply remove it entirely if you had weekly or daily limits. The entire purpose of shout chat is to advertise. Be it a hunt train, FC recruitment, or venue advertisement. No one to my knowledge actually uses shout chat unironically to actually chat with everyone.

In short, I don't really see it hurting anyone. For me personally, there's so many shouts that I sort of just gloss over them, and I have a tab where shouts are turned off when I'm actively talking to individuals, talking in say chat, or talking to the FC. Then I have a tab that has literally everything and I actively switch between the two depending on what the situation calls for.

[GTK0HLK]

I mean, as a venue owner myself, we try to limit where and when shouts are done. Yes they may teleport and shout then move onto the next location, but consider, it takes 20 minutes to get every major location where players are likely to be on every server in the data center. I would also like to point out that none of the venues receive any of the money that their particular DJ does, so it's not being done to promote the DJ (or at least not from what I've seen, there may be some shouts with DJ information). You've also got multiple venues vying for attention in the partyfinder. These are community events being held, and just because they're RP venues doesn't mean they should be considered less important than other community events such as hunt trains and the like.

Now, while we recognize that yes it can get annoying for multiple shouts going out, we also know we can't please everyone. Limiting the chat would defeat the purpose of the chat. You may as well simply remove it entirely if you had weekly or daily limits. The entire purpose of shout chat is to advertise. Be it a hunt train, FC recruitment, or venue advertisement. No one to my knowledge actually uses shout chat unironically to actually chat with everyone.

In short, I don't really see it hurting anyone. For me personally, there's so many shouts that I sort of just gloss over them, and I have a tab where shouts are turned off when I'm actively talking to individuals, talking in say chat, or talking to the FC. Then I have a tab that has literally everything and I actively switch between the two depending on what the situation calls for.

people actually did many months ago if I recall at least In my world, mostly small talk, though it largely died since people move on/change dc/world over their personal issues.(we even have a clone bot of a performer, which tbh, if you're trying to keep the memory of a person long gone, no new person will care.)

If we don't have things work as intended, how can we expect other things to work as designed.

it's like Fellowships atm, not many use them, but those that do, partake constantly enough that it contains many large ones.

if the game pushes and improves said chats[maybe even divert the Inappropriate use of Novice Network into a actual chat that would be drop in/drop out], then they would be used for said things, have better FC integration both in the website, and in game with PF link, and Fellowships as well.

Many ways to solve a solution. and going out of one's way to adjust a chat is not a fix, but a used bandaid as many have a need for shout chat outside of CityStates or open world.