Reaper Class Is Disappointing

[True-to-Caesar]

Malthael and Nazguls with heavy armors say hi. You can also glam light clothes or dresses with a hood so your whole point doesn’t stand on its legs currently.

I would have thought you would speak how the actual gameplay, where RPR has a cool burst phase but is extremely bland outside of it. Super slow, I play SAM and MCH as dps and they feel so much more dynamic.

[MagiusNecros]

Right that was kinda my thing and then it was just about cosmetics when I walked in. Like who cares.

[Teno]

If I'm not mistaken, I remember the devs saying they would hold back on making gear from past expansions for the newest classes due to the amount of work it'd take. I don't remember when they stopped but there was quite some choice at the release of HW. I wish they'd at least design a weapon for the new jobs when they release a glowing crafted version of an ex weapon.

[Renathras]

I'll say this up front (after I wrote all that out...): I hope you can find some stuff you're looking for and maybe browsing through the Eorzea Collection and people's suggestions here find some stuff you like.

Their having an identity crisis right now.

1. Has never happened in the history of the game with the ONLY exception being NIN, and that was a special case. They're having Relics added (as are SGE) right now. I think they also may back-date the Ultimates by making weapons for the new Jobs for them, like how they made Thordain Extreme now drop RPR and SGE weapons since they added the models for them for the Dragonsong Ultimate and, as the models were now in the game with the special visual effect, they can put the matte version into the Extreme Trial's loot table without issue. You may think this is a thing, but it's not, and never has been. Period. (Aside: I hate when people say something and then say "Period", as if that means they get the last word or everyone must bow to it. Tends to generate an antagonistic response...)

2. NPCs in the story often wear sets. Thancred and Urianger outright wear the GNB and AST sets. Alphinaud wears the SGE set. Estinian is still in level 50 DRG gear. This is what is typical for new Jobs, but it expands as they're in more expansions. Moreover, you have access to all past Maiming sets, so it's not like you have no other gear options, and you also have all the level 1 glamour gear with no stats that can be used on any Job, or all the PvP sets for Maiming. And I imagine Reapers wearing medium armor. That is, in fact, the first thing that comes to mind. Like how DRK's wear plate, I'd expect RPRs to wear mail or scale armor, with some options for leather. Which is what they have. And no, they should not "be allowed to wear anything that a tank can not wear". No other Job gets that privilege, and seeing a RPR in Caster or Healer gear would look even more ridiculous than "a Samurai with a scythe" looks. (Never mind most SAM gear IS cloth/leather, the thing you're asking for... <_<)

3. Third verse same as the first. This is true in all expansions for all added Jobs. They aren't going to make a ton of gear that is useless. The reason all those level 60 vendors have WHM gear and not RPR gear is because people are still level WHMs in that content and need those as actual gear upgrades while RPRs start at level 70 and so have no need of gear below it. That said, a lot of low level gear HAS been made where RPRs can use it, just not weapons because that would require them to spend hours of Dev time just making various flavors of weapon that 99.99% of the playerbase won't ever use or even see. That said, some old content has weapons backdated to them, such as Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High both having two stages of weapon for all Jobs (except BLU) in the game, including newly added ones since your character automatically equips those weapons when you zone in. The copied armor in PvP is usually different. It may be the same model but likely has different dye setups. SGE has the same thing.

Archfiend set is very recent and is with the PvP Season system. That's just the way it works, but it's expected to be obtainable again in the future. Indeed, the ONLY gearsets that AREN'T obtainable are those special PvP ones. Of which there has been exactly 1 to date. So you say "best armor pieces for Reaper", are you talking about A SINGLE SET of armor? Because what other armor sets have been made unobtainable? The False Monarchy will be after this Season, but that would bring the total number of unobtainable sets...to 2. This sounds like a complaint you're using just to pad your complaint list. Not only that, the Archfiend set is heavy PLATE armor! The very thing you just got through saying doesn't fit RPR's aesthetic. You need to stop arguing against your own argument as examples for why your Job is slighted...

Take a look for example at the Void Ark Mail of Maiming gearset. It's not heavy armor, it's more light like mail, and would look fine on a RPR. (It's also something you can farm fairly effectively during Moogle Tome events when its one of the featured Duties.)

I'm also REALLY curious what you think historic scythe users wore? Historically, scythes were not weapons of war, they were farmer tools. A modification of it, the Kama (a short, one-handed scythe) was used by some assassin type groups and irl ninjas, sometimes with a chain attachment, but it was a rare weapon and difficult combat style to teach and learn. There weren't a lot of historic scythe users, and nothing like anime scythe users since the weapon is so unwieldy and requires a lot of understanding and training with rotational momentum to use effectively. Most people with access to a scythe could just as easily make a staff or a spear, and both were easier to use as weapons. So people that DID use scythes in combat were probably garbed like either LNCers (not even DRGs), and obviously RPRs can wear all the armor that LNCs can. Most war scythes were more like halberds, having the blade put on the long axis instead of 90 degrees. They were used as such by peasant armies, meaning again, you're talking about dressing like a farmer or MAYBE a LNC/Wood Wailer in padded or light leather armor. And again, plenty of those gearsets exist from ARR, and you can dye them black if you want a darker aesthetic.

I'm not sure what history you're appealing to, here...

That said, I agree sometimes it would be neat to use other gear sets, and it's weird some of the pairings; for instance, WHM is a druid/priest while SGE is a wizard/scholar/doctor, yet they use the same set...why? And why can a WAR use the Plague Doctor set? Some stuff like that doesn't make sense. But that's not a RPR specific argument.

RPR isn't having an identity crisis because of this. Talk about overstating one's case...

[Ransu]

Also, you say "not even realistic to what historically reaper or scythe users in general would actually wear". Are you asking to dress like a farmer?

Yes? lol

[RyuuZero]

Yes? lol

https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/gearset/peacelovers
This is the Glamourset that I used when I started lvling Reaper xD

[Shiro_Ken]

1. Really? Check your sources before you look ridiculous:
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/9fda2cf0dc5/

https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...&category3=108

Really how about you look. 95% of any glamour on eorzea collection for reaper do not look like reapers, they look like dragoons, or like an average citizen holding a scythe. When you remove seasonal only items and mog station items, all reapers look trash with very few exceptions, and yes i have looked at all of them.

The coolest looking Reaper glamours use seasonal pvp items. The next best thing is Zeros armor set, and then after that its the reaper set. The only changes are usually a single piece of armor, the chest piece, or the helmet.

[MagiusNecros]

Reapers are just FFXI DRKs in disguise lol

[Carin-Eri]

Really how about you look. 95% of any glamour on eorzea collection for reaper do not look like reapers, they look like dragoons, or like an average citizen holding a scythe. When you remove seasonal only items and mog station items, all reapers look trash with very few exceptions, and yes i have looked at all of them.

The coolest looking Reaper glamours use seasonal pvp items. The next best thing is Zeros armor set, and then after that its the reaper set. The only changes are usually a single piece of armor, the chest piece, or the helmet.

I tend to favor the Makai option for reaper, with alternative (far Eastern) bottoms and the 2B boots:

[Stormcrow13]

Also of note, if you look into the lore behind RPR, they did start out as farmhands in the Garlean nation, then became something akin to local watchmen and heroes to the common folk. Hence your class trainer being a Garlean expat. As for gear, that will come, has come to an extent and we can expect more as we get closer to Dawntrail. Wouldn't sweat it, just enjoy the class. I like it because its fast DPS, or at least feels that way to me.