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  1. #1
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    Shiro_Ken's Avatar
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    Shiro Kensei
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90

    Reaper Class Is Disappointing

    To start, I want to say the gameplay of Reaper is fine. I enjoy it a ton, although maybe difficult or bad for pvp for those who care about that. My disappointment with Reaper is everything else that happens from deciding to main Reaper as your dps class of choice.

    1. Relics

    Reaper has no relic weapons at all as far as i can tell. I don't care if its a new class and as such has no relics from old expansions. Every class should be able to get every relic weapon, period.

    2. Reaper Armor

    Reaper armor and glamour options are extremely annoying and disappointing. There are at least 2 or 3versions of the default reaper armor, and at least 2 or 3 versions of the artifact armor set which isn't as unique cause an npc in the story also wears it. For a class called Reaper, the first thing that comes to mind is not medium to heavy armor. When I think of Reaper, I don't imagine being Dragoon with a Scythe instead of a spear. When I think of reaper I imagine wearing cloth primarily, leather optionally. How many options does Reaper have to not look like a dragoon, or not look ridiculous, or like a Samurai with a scythe, very few. Reaper should be allowed to wear anything that a tank can not wear. The very armor designs of reaper are not even realistic to what historically reaper or scythe users in general would actually wear. This is so frustrating that it actually makes me want to quit because all my armor and glamor options are largely immersion breaking.

    3. Reaper Gear from NPCs

    Most npcs do not offer reaper weapons, or even armor. Even worse i can go to PvP and 99% of the pvp items are not available to Reaper. At the very least they have maybe 1 weapon, which im sure is a reskin, and then a couple armor sets which are obviously just Dragoon sets with Reaper tagged on. The 1 actual reaper specific armor is literally the artifact armor 1:1. Some of the best armor pieces for Reaper are not even obtainable anymore, like Archfiend set, which is very frustrating. If I want to look like a class other than Dragoon on my Reaper I have 2 options, the reaper set, and the artifact armor, which you can also get from pvp, and really the only unique thing about the artifact armor is the hat itself.

    If I recall correctly the reason classes cant wear off class armor as glamour is because theoretically it removes the identity of the class or role. However when you got people running around in bathing suits, or stuffed animal cosplay, etc it kind of destroys this supposed fantasy especially when you add in all the paid cosmetics. IMO the glamour gating really needs to go. There is literally infinite possibilities i would love if i could mix pieces from across all the classes.

    Glamour aside i love the class, but Reaper needs more love. Their having an identity crisis right now.
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  2. #2
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Reaper was introduced in Endwalker and has an Endwalker relic. We're just only at the first stage so far. Other jobs didn't get relics from previous expansions either. They get current content and new content going forward. It's no different for other jobs. The Omega Reaper weapon was recently added simply because it's the base model for Ultimate.

    The same applies to other gear. Reaper didn't exist prior to this expansion, so there is no previous Reaper-themed gear. It shares Maiming gear with Dragoon.

    Also, you say "not even realistic to what historically reaper or scythe users in general would actually wear". Are you asking to dress like a farmer?
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  3. #3
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Dont feed the troll bro
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  4. #4
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    Shiro_Ken's Avatar
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    Shiro Kensei
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Also, you say "not even realistic to what historically reaper or scythe users in general would actually wear". Are you asking to dress like a farmer?
    If you want to get technical Reapers are the personification of Death, aka the Grim Reaper. This is always personified as a cloaked being, skeleton or not. In every Final Fantasy game this is the case except 14. Historically in Anime, Manga, and video games such as .hack// G.U, Japanese media never depicts Scythe users in Heavy Armor.

    Reapers in FF14 are inconsistent with the representation of what they are supposed to be. They only look similar to reapers mid combat, which is dumb. Scythe users are like rogues, their supposed to be fast, agile, and elusive. You cant do that in heavy armor. For a Japanese game you would expect them to stick to their roots.
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    Last edited by Shiro_Ken; 01-20-2023 at 08:07 AM.

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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    going forward there will be more themed gear, but for the most part most of the armor is going to be shared with another class. they don't go back and backfill reaper themed armor.
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    SlouchyBard's Avatar
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    Aki M'njor
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Technically speaking from a historical standpoint, the personification of death has always been a skeleton, which is true, for the most part. But the reaper garb, no. That was created during 14th century Europe when the Black Death was roaming around.

    If you look at other historical cultures on their representation of Death, you'll find a lot are actually cloakless and scythless. Look at Mictēcacihuātl, she was the Aztec Deity of death and sported no cloak, no scythe, nothing. Same with Yama, except the only difference is that he actually had flesh. Blue even!

    I always forget about Chronos. Didn't really stick with Roman Mythology. But he is too a deity of death. He does sport the scythe but no cloak and no skeleton.

    So I guess sorry that a Japanese game didn't choose the one representation of Death that you wanted.
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Aside from making assumptions based on the name, FFXIV Reapers are not a personification of Death. They were Garlean farmers who made pacts with Voidsent due to their inability to use aether. The Reaper name is a legitimate reference to their roots with a supernatural nuance. We are not "Grim Reapers" who should be cloaked or skeletal.

    I don't disagree that "armored" is still out of place. It's simply a side effect a new class having to share gear with an older one that is thematically different. However, I also think you're possibly expecting Reaper to be something other than what's intended.
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  8. #8
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro_Ken View Post
    No Gear for RPR ?
    1. Really? Check your sources before you look ridiculous:
    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/9fda2cf0dc5/

    https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/

    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...&category3=108
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Reaper is primarily disappointing as a slow as molasses builder spender design so you can Fell Cleave 4-5 times. It looks cool but leaves much to be desired. Wish it interacted with Sacrifice Stacks more instead of just being yet another 2 minute meta burst class.

    I really like the Enshroud form but it doesn't last very long to ever notice it.

    I think it might be nice if they gave other jobs relic and gearsets from previous expansions to give incentives to do old content but that isn't going to happen. They literally don't care and they have the majority of the userbase that thinks the same.

    I don't expect too many changes to be made to Reaper. If anything happens it'll be in 7.0. Which granted they might just give you Communio 2 and call it a day.
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
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