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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    I will say, I have noticed a couple WHMs in my pugs where they won't use their heals at the right time. For example, when we would get hit with a heavy raidwide and I Fey Blessing into Whispering Dawn, I'm still looking at about 50% health for a while because I'm expecting my WHM to chip in with a rapture or at least an Asylum. This leaves me to burn an aether stack on indom. I try not to be elitist but when it's endgame content you should know when to use your aoe heals.

    And then when I'm tanking I get the medica/cure spamming WHMs so yeah, WHMs are kind of a mixed bag. There are at least times where you will see a super clutch WHM.
    It's also pretty rough when you don't have voice chat. I know there were plenty of times where I saw the party take damage, thought "eh Assize is 10 seconds off and the next raidwide is 40 second away so I don't need to do anything......oh you're going to Aspected Helios? Okay then. I wasn't going to let them die but....okay."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It's also pretty rough when you don't have voice chat. I know there were plenty of times where I saw the party take damage, thought "eh Assize is 10 seconds off and the next raidwide is 40 second away so I don't need to do anything......oh you're going to Aspected Helios? Okay then. I wasn't going to let them die but....okay."
    True. I do keep forgetting how heavily scripted the fights are. At this point my healing mindset is always accounting for mistakes especially if there's a tricky mechanic coming after the raidwide. I noticed significantly less wipes in party finder that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    True. I do keep forgetting how heavily scripted the fights are. At this point my healing mindset is always accounting for mistakes especially if there's a tricky mechanic coming after the raidwide. I noticed significantly less wipes in party finder that way.
    It's situational. Like the current patch trial (both normal and EX): the boss does f***all for like 45 seconds when he's sitting there with his thumb up his butt casting the wind-up spells for his Purgation phase. No mechanics, no autoattacks, nothing. I wouldn't consider healing anyone during that relative eternity of a timegap to be an urgent task. But Barbie's tornadoes? Those would easily clip someone not paying attention, leaving someone at half HP during those is a bad idea in goober-finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It's situational. Like the current patch trial (both normal and EX): the boss does f***all for like 45 seconds when he's sitting there with his thumb up his butt casting the wind-up spells for his Purgation phase. No mechanics, no autoattacks, nothing. I wouldn't consider healing anyone during that relative eternity of a timegap to be an urgent task. But Barbie's tornadoes? Those would easily clip someone not paying attention, leaving someone at half HP during those is a bad idea in goober-finder.
    Holy hell I watched Xeno's guide and you are absolutely right on that absurdly long downtime (Yoshi please give healers more dps buttons for the love of god). Also the fact that a tank can fuck up every single mechanic and still live is insane. Well at least this extreme won't be super painful to pug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It's situational. Like the current patch trial (both normal and EX): the boss does f***all for like 45 seconds when he's sitting there with his thumb up his butt casting the wind-up spells for his Purgation phase. No mechanics, no autoattacks, nothing. I wouldn't consider healing anyone during that relative eternity of a timegap to be an urgent task. But Barbie's tornadoes? Those would easily clip someone not paying attention, leaving someone at half HP during those is a bad idea in goober-finder.
    The worst part is that this is also frequent enough in Savage as well.
    Little Miss Tapeworm does a lot of... yep, nothing for over a minute between 2:21 and 3:44 and again between 9:03 and 10:07. And has a lot of 30s+ gaps between damage happening. Just a few auto attacks but always casting this or that so even they are few.
    What are you even supposed to heal there?
    Or Tree savage has decent enough damage going out but after Purgation you have this hilarious 1:08 gap. Because healers have to do thinky things and move for a mechanic, that's so exhausting that we need to give them a 1min+ break. I wonder what would happen if SE locked dps kits to 12 combos for 1min+ after they had to play their burst during a mechanic.

    I wish we had more trials like Barbie Ex, that one was the most fun in ages for me on healer. Not only was the fight itself relatively fast-paced because there was always something happening, it also had frequent damage and plenty of opportunities for people to eat extra and cause a bit of chaos.
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