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    MintberriCrunch's Avatar
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    Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

    Title says it all, I'd rather go back to fighting bots at the placard for hours at a time because at least my dedication eventually got me a house. Square's solution to the bot problem being "lets just make it randomm!!xD" has to be the absolute laziest solution to a problem I've ever seen in a game.

    I might have been okay with this stupidly lazy fix if it only applied to the dime a dozen small houses, but Medium and Large plots are some of the rarest and most sought after items in the game. Its insane to me that a some person who just hit level 50 and ground out a moot amount of gold has the same chance at getting one of these plots as a mentor with 50x more sub time and time played.

    The very least they could do is increase the amount of money these plots cost (at least double) and require you to complete the Endwalker MSQ and possibly more. This would cut down on the amount of bids people with multiple alt characters and/or multiple accounts are putting in each buy period, as I personally know many people with 2+ houses that are putting in 3+ bids on MORE plots each buy period because of the loose restrictions.
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    The problem wasn't just the bots but availability times. You're at work when house comes online? Maybe asleep? Took a piss break? Sorry, your chances are bye-bye.

    The roulette system's purpose was to make it all equal ground for everyone. It didn't achieve it entirely, because multiple FC members can still bid on one FC's behalf and people can bid with multiple accounts, but this system is still miles better than the no-lifer/bot haven than old one was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    The problem wasn't just the bots but availability times. You're at work when house comes online? Maybe asleep? Took a piss break? Sorry, your chances are bye-bye.

    The roulette system's purpose was to make it all equal ground for everyone. It didn't achieve it entirely, because multiple FC members can still bid on one FC's behalf and people can bid with multiple accounts, but this system is still miles better than the no-lifer/bot haven than old one was.
    What they really should do is make only FC leaders bid, and triple the amount of PRIVATE wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    What they really should do is make only FC leaders bid, and triple the amount of PRIVATE wards.
    I don't think both options are necessary to be honest, but either one individually would work well.
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintberriCrunch View Post
    I'd rather go back to fighting bots at the placard for hours at a time because at least my dedication eventually got me a house
    No. Don't get me started on this topic for the 10th billion time..

    Nothing guarantied you'd get a house in the old system. Your dedication didn't get you anything. It was pure random luck if you got the lucky click or not amidst 20 people doing the same as you, 18 of which were probably bots clicking faster than you and had actual higher chances than you. The only difference with lottery is that you can do literally anything else with your life other than click on a placard.

    Is the lottery system imperfect? yes. But you people need to stop pretending Placard Spamming was better because it wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    No. Don't get me started on this topic for the 10th billion time..

    Nothing guarantied you'd get a house in the old system. Your dedication didn't get you anything. It was pure random luck if you got the lucky click or not amidst 20 people doing the same as you, 18 of which were probably bots clicking faster than you and had actual higher chances than you. The only difference with lottery is that you can do literally anything else with your life other than click on a placard.

    Is the lottery system imperfect? yes. But you people need to stop pretending Placard Spamming was better because it wasn't.
    Way too many people will spill salt over bad RNG against the objectively better system purely because they didn't get what they wanted. It's nothing new and best we can hope is that it will just be ignored for salt it is, and only actual problems with system will be addressed, rather than regressing back into awful placard clickfest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Your dedication didn't get you anything. It was pure random luck
    Yes it did, and no it wasn't. Me and all the friends I met spamming those placards got houses under that system. With that being said, we all spent waaaay too much time spamming (30+ hours collectively for me) and losing plots to transfers and bots. The old system was obviously bad, nobody in their right mind actually wants it back, I'm just saying at least there was a way to influence the outcome and that the lottery system is the laziest band-aid imaginable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintberriCrunch View Post
    Yes it did, and no it wasn't. Me and all the friends I met spamming those placards got houses under that system. With that being said, we all spent waaaay too much time spamming (30+ hours collectively for me) and losing plots to transfers and bots. The old system was obviously bad, nobody in their right mind actually wants it back, I'm just saying at least there was a way to influence the outcome and that the lottery system is the laziest band-aid imaginable.
    Its not lazy at all, considering, in ideal system, there SHOULDNT be a way to influence the outcome. That is the only way a system for distributing limited resources can stay fair - if everyone is on completely equal footing. Yes, its true its not equal right now but the steps should be made towards it being more equal, not less.
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    I'm sorry that you didn't get a house.
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    ...Or we can stop with the damn band-aids and give it a complete revamp with instanced housing.
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