Gaia's Outfit on Mogstation

[Caro178]

i feel generally ripped off after buying this outfit. I literally CANNOT use this outfit. how can i glam something if it doesnt allow me to wear feet, legs and hands with it??? its useless unless I just want to stand around without doing any content while wearing this outfit. this is a huge mistake

If this question is about what I think it is you can apply the outfit to a glamour plate and glamour it over your existing whatever ilevel gear. It's just like mascot outfits. So while I can't comment about how much you'll use it, you definitely CAN use it and run content with it without sacrificing ilevel.

[Yencat]

I find it strange how you got "clipping" out of this explanation when the whole paragraph focuses how the longer NPC hairstyles and mods aren't made with proper movement physics in mind. They're made for cutscenes where NPCs will at most RP walk around and talk, not for player characters. If they can rehaul their hair system one day that's one thing, but as it is this isn't about clipping.

The fact that many modders don't bother properly weighting the extremely long custom hairstyles either also probably says something about how time consuming / difficult it is to get long hair like that to look and behave in an even remotely natural way.

Gaia's exact hair is probably too cumbersome as it is, but I would love an 'inspired-by'-version that's a similar style and at a decently long length they can manage, like Great Lengths or some of the Femroe or F/Viera styles.

[LianaThorne]

Well I just assumed its what they meant considering everything else they said was a blatant lie.
NPCs are built off of character skeletons, and more often than not call the exact same animations that characters do. And the long hair styles we do have effectively do shoot off the back exactly like they describe, but that happens with the hairs we have that are longer already. Go actually look at the longer hairs that Aura or Roegadyn has, they do not comform to the back or flow evenly there, there is a significant gap on the back to where it is.

Furthermore, it even happens already on the gaia model when its just standing, its not perfectly crafted or anything, nor is it one solid chunk of hair that ignores physics, it works about as well as any other player hair that has decent length.

The real reason why hair wasn't included in this case is because it would take more effort than the small indie dev was willing to do. For whatever reason.

Sorry your assumption was wrong. No where did I mention clipping.

Also, go check out the Ysayle hair mod and tell me that it's not just one solid chunk moving back and forth when you run. Square clearly did not account for longer hair to exist in the game with how it looks.

[Zomkei]

i feel generally ripped off after buying this outfit. I literally CANNOT use this outfit. how can i glam something if it doesnt allow me to wear feet, legs and hands with it??? its useless unless I just want to stand around without doing any content while wearing this outfit. this is a huge mistake

am i misunderstanding something? im pretty sure you can glamour it just fine. just glamour it on your chest.

[HollowedDoll]

The fact that many modders don't bother properly weighting the extremely long custom hairstyles either also probably says something about how time consuming / difficult it is to get long hair like that to look and behave in an even remotely natural way.

Gaia's exact hair is probably too cumbersome as it is, but I would love an 'inspired-by'-version that's a similar style and at a decently long length they can manage, like Great Lengths or some of the Femroe or F/Viera styles.

Said modders don't bother properly doing anything because people are willing to pay for garbage, or because it wasn't covered in a 20 page guide.

[Yencat]

Said modders don't bother properly doing anything because people are willing to pay for garbage, or because it wasn't covered in a 20 page guide.

People pay for mods?

[VerdeLuck]

You really have to wonder about the mogstation items, far more female items than male items, new items locked from viera due to headgear or hair, glam weapons have wands for WHM and BLM, which are impossible to glam most gear people will use in-game with.
Does the mogstation team even pay attention to how people play or what people want? I feel like it's so disconnected and any feedback takes forever to get through.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Said modders don't bother properly doing anything because people are willing to pay for garbage, or because it wasn't covered in a 20 page guide.

Yeah, I've seen pictures of a lot of stuff, and half the time hairstyles look worse than what we have in game. Much worse... The best ones I've seen are just mashups of in game hairstyles lol



And don't get me started on the outfits. Oof.

[Zomkei]

People pay for mods?

they "donate" for mods. usually 5-10 dollars per

[HollowedDoll]

People pay for mods?

I mean I've seen people pay for others to take SCREENSHOTS of their characters

Sorry your assumption was wrong. No where did I mention clipping.

Also, go check out the Ysayle hair mod and tell me that it's not just one solid chunk moving back and forth when you run. Square clearly did not account for longer hair to exist in the game with how it looks.

I don't think that's a good comparison for that particular hairstyle as the people making mods are prone to making errors, I'd check out Ysayle's hair in HW Trusts and see how that moves, careless "modders" could easily throw away the hair bones that make things flow nicely. Imo if it's on a regular player model NPC that exists outside of cutscenes then it's fair game to make them work on players.