Add Rival Wings to daily roulette

[Yasminou]

Do what same thing? There's one map.

If Astralagos ever comes back, it'll probably be a two-day rotation.

They are asking for a RW daily challenge with extra xp, etc. to make it more alive. This is exactly what the Frontline daily challenge does, it has nothing to do with the map rotation.

Independently, if RW has again several maps, SE could introduce a daily rotation of those, indeed.

[Deveryn]

They are asking for a RW daily challenge with extra xp, etc. to make it more alive. This is exactly what the Frontline daily challenge does, it has nothing to do with the map rotation.

Independently, if RW has again several maps, SE could introduce a daily rotation of those, indeed.

Yeah... I actually don't want that. The problem with the daily challenge system is you get people that only go for the reward. In Frontlines, you regularly get people that are there to get a level on a job in 16 minutes and go on their way.

RW is more fun because people aren't there just for the reward and they actually like pvp and want to try to win.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Yeah... I actually don't want that. The problem with the daily challenge system is you get people that only go for the reward. In Frontlines, you regularly get people that are there to get a level on a job in 16 minutes and go on their way.

RW is more fun because people aren't there just for the reward and they actually like pvp and want to try to win.

...god forbid people do things for a reward am I right.

No, seriously. You are more afraid of people mudding the waters for playing for the reward than of the fact, that Rival Wings currently is on life support by the community organising matches. This also doesn't consider that out of the people playing for the reward, there are those who like the game and want to improve in that mode.

Not everyone does Daily Challenge with minimal effort and zero heart.

[Deveryn]

Not everyone does Daily Challenge with minimal effort and zero heart.

Enough do that it's very noticeable to those that participate regularly and try to work on the long term rewards. I've seen plenty of backlash against those that are actually trying to organize people to win a Frontline match. It's not a fun experience when people clearly don't care about hitting the objectives properly and putting up a good fight.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Enough do that it's very noticeable to those that participate regularly and try to work on the long term rewards. I've seen plenty of backlash against those that are actually trying to organize people to win a Frontline match. It's not a fun experience when people clearly don't care about hitting the objectives properly and putting up a good fight.

The issue isn't people wanting to play for rewards, the issue is the lack of systems in place to base the reward on performance / activity and-or the lack of systems punishing players beyond "lol get removed if you waited too long in spawn".

I'd prefer having people populate the mode in the first place and there being bad blood in between rather than the mode being on life support.

[Eloah]

OMG yes, please add a Rival Wings roulette. When I was farming exp for Series 2, I hit a perfect window of short que Rival Wings, it is so much more entertaining than the other two PvP modes. The more choices we have for the grind, the less boring and tedious it feels. Please add a roulette that rotates the map just like Frontlines. And also add another map, please.

[Lumiena]

They really do need to revive Rival Wings. Bring back Astragalos. Add a roulette for it. Please. It's ridiculous that the community needs to organize events to even get it to pop.

[Deveryn]

Astragalos is down for rebalancing following the PvP revamp, so they do plan to bring it back at some point. (the Duty Finder says so) They'll likely do a daily rotation as they do with Frontline or maybe something closer to CC. In the meantime, you should show your support for Rival Wings if you actually like that mode. Otherwise, it just looks like you're here being greedy for more rewards. You already get series XP, tomes and credit towards achievements shared with CC.

[Saraide]

Yes frontline is technically not a roulette. It isnt actually called a roulette in game, it's called daily challenge or something like that. However it is grouped together with every other roulette and like every other roulette gives a daily bonus. Calling it frontline roulette is easily understandable for every honest person and only dishonest people will try to split hairs on this.

I am in favor of giving daily frontline a buddy in daily rival wings. It's an okay game mode that unfortunately suffers from having been literally dead for so long now that it's hard getting matchmaking for it going again. Previous to rival wings becoming temporarly unavailable there was a PF on my DC every friday calling people into hidden gorge and it lead to pretty quick queues. I havent seen them since the reintroduction sadly so a daily rival wings could do a nice job jump starting the game mode again.

[Deveryn]

Yes frontline is technically not a roulette. It isnt actually called a roulette in game, it's called daily challenge or something like that. However it is grouped together with every other roulette and like every other roulette gives a daily bonus. Calling it frontline roulette is easily understandable for every honest person and only dishonest people will try to split hairs on this.

I am in favor of giving daily frontline a buddy in daily rival wings. It's an okay game mode that unfortunately suffers from having been literally dead for so long now that it's hard getting matchmaking for it going again. Previous to rival wings becoming temporarly unavailable there was a PF on my DC every friday calling people into hidden gorge and it lead to pretty quick queues. I havent seen them since the reintroduction sadly so a daily rival wings could do a nice job jump starting the game mode again.

The only people being dishonest around here are those that insist on isolating themselves and hiding behind the excuse of having the devs be solely responsible for promotion of this mode. If you bothered to find a relevant discord, like Revival, you'd see it's actually been active. It may not be as active as frontline, but it's enough that people are showing up regularly.