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    Add Rival Wings to daily roulette

    I don't understand why it's not there. It's actually a fun game mode, lasts about 15 minutes and is less frustrating than Frontlines. Astralagos is still locked, adding Hidden George wouldn't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    I don't understand why it's not there. It's actually a fun game mode, lasts about 15 minutes and is less frustrating than Frontlines. Astralagos is still locked, adding Hidden George wouldn't hurt.
    This comes up a lot. Frontlines sits there alone in its own little Challenges section in the DF under a ton of group PvE options. Plenty of room at the bottom of the DF for RW and (unranked) CC to go with FL.
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    Yeah both unraked CC and other PvP activities could use some love to be added in the roulette section.
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    Frontline is not a roulette, but a rotation. If you want to give either of the other modes some love, there are discords for that, hosting events. Rival Wings is run almost every day on a different DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Frontline is not a roulette, but a rotation. If you want to give either of the other modes some love, there are discords for that, hosting events. Rival Wings is run almost every day on a different DC.
    That's literally not my whole point, but thanks for playing along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    That's literally not my whole point, but thanks for playing along.
    You're welcome. I'm not done yet. Thank you for being obtuse. My whole point is they can't do what you want because there's nothing to roulette with. Mentor roulette aside, everything is grouped up nicely with the same party comps across the board. You know what you're gonna get. I imagine it would be difficult to fill frontline in this manner because it's going to pick the smaller duty first. Next time put a little more thought into your ideas before you put them out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You're welcome. I'm not done yet. Thank you for being obtuse. My whole point is they can't do what you want because there's nothing to roulette with. Mentor roulette aside, everything is grouped up nicely with the same party comps across the board. You know what you're gonna get. I imagine it would be difficult to fill frontline in this manner because it's going to pick the smaller duty first. Next time put a little more thought into your ideas before you put them out there.
    What exactly is front line rouletting with? Oh right nothing. They can do the same thing for rival wings which is actually fun PVP that isn’t fundamentally flawed like front line.
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    Roulette is the group PvE section. Frontlines is under a different section - challenges. No need to get hung up on the semantics around "roulette". Discords are not sufficient for people who want to jump into RW as easily as they do FL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conadrium View Post
    What exactly is front line rouletting with? Oh right nothing. They can do the same thing for rival wings which is actually fun PVP that isn’t fundamentally flawed like front line.
    Do what same thing? There's one map.

    If Astralagos ever comes back, it'll probably be a two-day rotation.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    Roulette is the group PvE section. Frontlines is under a different section - challenges. No need to get hung up on the semantics around "roulette". Discords are not sufficient for people who want to jump into RW as easily as they do FL.
    Maybe there are some CWLS. I don't know. Discord is incredibly convenient. You don't even have to converse with people.

    How is it getting hung up on semantics when roulette only means one thing around here? Maybe if OP decides to be clearer, something can be sorted out, but they just want to throw words around and hope something sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Do what same thing? There's one map.

    If Astralagos ever comes back, it'll probably be a two-day rotation.
    They are asking for a RW daily challenge with extra xp, etc. to make it more alive. This is exactly what the Frontline daily challenge does, it has nothing to do with the map rotation.

    Independently, if RW has again several maps, SE could introduce a daily rotation of those, indeed.
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