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    MS let FFXI on Xbox but that was when Xbox 360 was just starting out and they wanted to get some kind of playerbase in Japan and attract more JP devs. What better way then having a FF title on their system.

    Pretty much now that Xbox live is hugely popular. MS requires all games that have an online component to require Gold. Companies can't host their own servers must be done on MS's servers and there can't be cross play between other platforms. For FFXIV to be on 360 either SE will have to give in to MS's demands, requirement of gold, pay MS for servers and only 360 players can play on that server. Or MS can decide to let SE make the game have it connect to SE's own servers and not require gold. Which will probably never happen. When Tanaka was in charge talks broke down with MS after awhile.

    You can't even use other pay services like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, many more of their sports channels without Gold. You can't even use free services like youtube, facebook, or twitter app without paying for gold on 360.

    MS has not allowed games to connect to non MS servers for awhile now. They wouldn't even let Portal 2 connect to Steam servers for leader boards and Steam Friend list and achievements and cross platform play with PC and Mac users, like the PS3 version can. You won't find other mmos on 360 now like DCU which is on PS3 and PC.

    360 users playing with users that have their competitors console is a big 'No' in their book. Another reason could be it was also known that people that played FFXI often didn't have gold because FFXI was they only online game they cared about playing so MS probably thinks they are losing money because these players are getting to play online on 360 without Gold which they don't really like.
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    There's no way that FFXIV would be able to run on a 360. Even with the new graphics engine. It is just not powerful enough of a system to run it. Already the PS3, is just barely would be able to run it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaAsura View Post
    There's no way that FFXIV would be able to run on a 360. Even with the new graphics engine. It is just not powerful enough of a system to run it. Already the PS3, is just barely would be able to run it.
    360 and PS3 are pretty similar in terms of power it could be optimized to run on 360 if its capable of running on PS3. Its just the Xbox Live issue more then anything that keeps it from being on 360.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    360 and PS3 are pretty similar in terms of power it could be optimized to run on 360 if its capable of running on PS3. Its just the Xbox Live issue more then anything that keeps it from being on 360.
    Not really, PS3 is about twice as powerful, however FFXIV could be adapted for the 360 just like every other cross platform game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    360 and PS3 are pretty similar in terms of power it could be optimized to run on 360 if its capable of running on PS3. Its just the Xbox Live issue more then anything that keeps it from being on 360.
    From a consumer's point of view, it seems the roadblock is that Xbox Live that keeping it from being ported Xbox. Now that may be one issue, whether that is the main reason is another thing.

    They are similar in some way, but how you are comparing them, is like comparing an Ipad to a Archos Tablet. Sure they can do most/or around the same things, but there is a performance difference between the two. Their specific hardware and the performance differences of each, is what sets them apart. AND although as you point out, they are somewhat the same, the PS3 wins hands down in better hardware. The faster processor, better video card and higher memory bandwidth of the PS3 would be better for FFXIV to run. If I recall correctly, it has been said that they are dumbing down the graphics a bit, making it so you can;t see as many people on screen and are toning down from the pc version to be able to get the PS3 to run FFXIV..... then I would assume taking it a few notches down (from that) to make it run on the Xbox wouldnt be a good choice. It would look terrible and wouldnt be worth the development time for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaAsura View Post
    From a consumer's point of view, it seems the roadblock is that Xbox Live that keeping it from being ported Xbox. Now that may be one issue, whether that is the main reason is another thing.

    They are similar in some way, but how you are comparing them, is like comparing an Ipad to a Archos Tablet. Sure they can do most/or around the same things, but there is a performance difference between the two. Their specific hardware and the performance differences of each, is what sets them apart. AND although as you point out, they are somewhat the same, the PS3 wins hands down in better hardware. The faster processor, better video card and higher memory bandwidth of the PS3 would be better for FFXIV to run. If I recall correctly, it has been said that they are dumbing down the graphics a bit, making it so you can;t see as many people on screen and are toning down from the pc version to be able to get the PS3 to run FFXIV..... then I would assume taking it a few notches down (from that) to make it run on the Xbox wouldnt be a good choice. It would look terrible and wouldnt be worth the development time for.
    It would look like any HD 360 game, FFXIV (if they go by their origanal plans) will only be in 720p as opposed to 1080p of the PC version, this will help the frame rate a lot. 360 should be able to handle 720p and lower draw distance a bit, which shouldn't look too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TokieRage
    I was hoping more for an xbox 360 version of the game... FFXIV is forcing me to buy a ps3 @.@
    Or upgrade your computer and play with a controller. Cheaper that way.
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    The core HW of ps3 was reported to not differ much from that of the future ps4. PS3's cell processor was released before there was much that could handle it, so it still has some life in it.
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    With the release of the ps3 version of the game, a ps4 version is basically inevitable. At least in the sense that yes, once the ps4 has been out for a while and people start replacing their ps3s with ps4s, porting Xiv over to ps4 is something they will want to do. However, I think they will probably gain more players by releasing Xiv on 360 as well ( after the ps3 release) and then go from there to the next gen consoles. I would even say they should consider releasing it on the wii-u if they think there's a playerbase to gain there. I'm all for anything that will increase the amount of players on this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoltaAsura View Post
    There's no way that FFXIV would be able to run on a 360. Even with the new graphics engine. It is just not powerful enough of a system to run it. Already the PS3, is just barely would be able to run it.
    Although I usually prefer PS3 versions, this is completely false. Thus far FF games on the xbox 360 have been ports from either PS2 (FFXI) or PS3 (FFXIII, FFXIII-2) and don't perform well for that very reason. Since this is a PC developed game it's actually 10 times easier to port and to optimize for the 360.
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