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    Quote Originally Posted by JacobNewblood View Post
    Yessss Like.
    Completely unrelated to the topic at hand but...

    That is an epic signature image! Love it!
    (Just had to say that...)
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    Thank you! was a pain to get the angle right and pausing everything just right lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Logic
    And we have lodged this exact feedback to the devs in every conceivable way and they still refuse to touch Dissipation.

    Hell, if it just gave 3 stacks of aetherflow it would be better than it is now. The 20% healing is pointless (as you described) since it only affects 3 spells in our entire kit.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    I say keep the aetherflow gain and also instead of the healing magic potency, make all spells instant cast for like 10 seconds or something like that.

    Or, make it reset all of our faerie skills used. So we use whispering dawn then use dissipation then we skip the CD. I’d take that too. Just make it unique. I agree that healing magic potency is not good since it only affects 3 casted heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Oh, they made one (absolutely necessary) change: The original skill did not resummon Eos after it was over, I don't think. You had to manually resummon her. If you weren't tracking when Dissipation ended, she just...wouldn't be there until you noticed. Though I don't remember if summoning was 5 sec back then or not, needless to say, they got enough complaints they changed THAT.
    It truly was a hated skill when it was introduced, but I've (and so many others when they saw the trailer and when it went live) always had a problem with how it functions and feels at its core, as it has a strong identity. And it boils down to : why is the fairy "dissipated", why does it vanish when it's so central to the scholar job ? Did someone want to get rid of it at some point ? I certainly don't think so, we need more interactions with it instead.
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    I feel like Dissipation was a package we received from FedEx back when HW released, but since none of us ordered it, we tried to let the delivery guy know he had the wrong address, but rather than accept that, he just argued with us that he did, in fact, deliver it to the right address. And now here we are, almost 8 years later, still arguing with the FedEx delivery guy in the front lawn about how we didn't order this and we don't want it, and he just won't let up. The house isn't even ours anymore because we didn't have time to pay any bills. It's been collected and sold to another family. Our kid graduated high school and we missed the graduation. All because this damn delivery guy won't just take Dissipation and walk away.
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    In that perfect, disillusioned world existing in my head where we would have two different fairies with their own abilities, Dissipation would be a button SCH press to swap their currently summoned fairy for the one in reserve without resorting in pressing Summon Eos/Selene + additional effects. But alas, we're in real world. :sob:

    ... Maybe I should really finish writing my copium rambling ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    In that perfect, disillusioned world existing in my head where we would have two different fairies with their own abilities, Dissipation would be a button SCH press to swap their currently summoned fairy for the one in reserve without resorting in pressing Summon Eos/Selene + additional effects. But alas, we're in real world. :sob:

    ... Maybe I should really finish writing my copium rambling ...
    I've 100% been on board with the Dissipation swapping the fairy and having two distinct ones for a while!
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    The least they could do is change the healing boost to all actions instead of healing potency so it affects Aetherflow healing (or does it? I’m doubting myself now). You know, the ability-based healing you’re presumably supposed to be following Dissipation with lol. Honestly I’d take them just straight up replacing it with something better; it doesn’t really make much sense for Scholars to eat the main thing that makes them unique lol
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    Last edited by Connor; 01-19-2023 at 10:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    The least they could do is change the healing boost to all actions instead of healing potency so it affects Aetherflow healing (or does it? I’m doubting myself now). You know, the ability-based healing you’re presumably supposed to be following Dissipation with lol. Honestly I’d take them just straight up replacing it with something better; it doesn’t really make much sense for Scholars to eat the main thing that makes them unique lol
    You're correct.

    Healing Spells/Magic = GCD only
    Healing Abilities = any and all healing

    Dissipation only boosts Healing Spells. That's one of the MANY problems with it. It gives you Aetherflow supposedly to use for emergency healing, but doesn't boost the potency of Aetherflow heals. Because it dismisses Eos, you're out her passive heals and out the SCH faerie orders (like Whispering Dawn) heals, and you also don't get Faerie Gauge buildup since Eos isn't present. The spells it DOES boost have no interaction with Aetherflow or Eos/Selene, meaning there's no point for the ability to give you AF or cost you Eos in the first place.

    A 3 min CD that boosts Physic(lol)/Adlo/Succor by 20% and gives you 3 AF stacks at the cost of all Eos healing and using any Eos abilities (or Seraph) or generating any Faerie Gauge by using those AF abilities while it's in effect.
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