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  1. #11
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Piety is such a useless stat these days...at least to me it seems that way. Between all the abilities to regain MP, freecast, or no MP healing we can do...I feel like the only things taking MP are Glare/Holy spamming. Lucid Dreaming has that covered.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  2. #12
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Piety is a dump stat and anyone who says otherwise will be pelted with rats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    while I personally prefer PIE, I would -really- enjoy not having DET shoved down my throat on every healer gear almost.

    even when we do get CRIT.. it comes with.. DET
    You.

    You will be the first.

    HIYAH!

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  3. #13
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Piety is a dump stat and anyone who says otherwise will be pelted with rats.



    You.

    You will be the first.
    Thats fine, reminds me of lalas...

    though I thought lala tossing had been banned in Eorzea
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  4. #14
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I suppose PIE does give some consistency with getting you somewhat more MP... But the least MP efficient healer feels to be SGE, and even with it MP is not really that big of an issue... Spell Speed or Crit would definitely be more useful.

    DET is one of those stats where you really can't go too wrong with getting more of it, as it just makes you do more damage and healing.
    SGE will cry in MP if their party is stellar perfect in mech execution because there's probably nothing to spend their addergalls on outside throwing a Druochole at their tank even there's no need to, just to get that 700 MP.
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  5. #15
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    SE has put BiS stats on extreme weapons since at least Heavensward. Except healers apparently. Maybe they think healers value Piety.
    YOU WILL GET PIETY ON YOUR GEAR AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

    The beatings will continue until morale improves!
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #16
    Player
    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post

    The beatings will continue until morale improves!
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  7. #17
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Is the recast 3.14?
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    Dim dim dam dada dim dim da dada dim da lilam
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  8. #18
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    If there is one stat AST doesn't need, its Piety.
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  9. #19
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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    The absolute state of sub-stats in 14... I hate it so much. I remember back in Wrath of the Lich King, I wanted ALL of the spirit on resto druid (spirit = piety pretty much) so I can spam my HoTs all day erry day. 14 it's all about crit and DH... it's so boring, even if those giant SGE/SCH crit shields give me the good brain juices. I just wish the vast majority of cases weren't "you want crit and DH".

    Max spellspeed BLM is a fun meme though, I will say that much. Single handedly saved the job for me, went from one of my most hated to jobs to "HAHA FIRE 4 GO BRRRRRRRRRR" fun (2.09 fire 4s feels REALLY nice).
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  10. #20
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    Khulan Noir
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I imagine they do it to get you into savage. They do the same with NIN where half my tome scouting gear has sks, which while not completely useless, is our lowest priority stat. Same with RDM having to do savage to get gear that doesn't have sps.
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