PvP

[VelKallor]

Meta is: Play the way we tell you to.
Meta is: This class is bad because we say so.
Meta is: play this this or this or we kick you.
Meta is: the death of originality, fun, realtime strategy.

In FF 14, every class, every job brings unique talents and abilities to the table. You bring the player, not the class.

Vel's Rules, book one page five. "There are times to take the book, and throw it out the window"

[Gugnir]

Wouldn't a separate ladder for ranked premade groups solve this. Like in order to even que you need a full premade party, this way you could have an actual party chat. It doesn't to be toxic, why can't a person just meme with people they know. Our current ranked ladder could just stay solo. Everyone gets a ride at the theme park they enjoy.

[VelKallor]

this way you could have an actual party chat.

We did. It was abused heavily, which is now we dont have free chat anymore.

[Gugnir]

We did. It was abused heavily, which is now we dont have free chat anymore.

Taken out of context. I also said, " in order to even que you need a full premade party," If they happen to allow a party finder for this, thats why there is a kick and report button.

[kevin_satron]

Wouldn't a separate ladder for ranked premade groups solve this. Like in order to even que you need a full premade party, this way you could have an actual party chat. It doesn't to be toxic, why can't a person just meme with people they know. Our current ranked ladder could just stay solo. Everyone gets a ride at the theme park they enjoy.

dont add ranked matches for premade party, cause it will bring RMT win trading. pre made party should just stay in casual matches but will have less rewards (like 800 for winning, 600 for losing)

[Gugnir]

dont add ranked matches for premade party, cause it will bring RMT win trading. pre made party should just stay in casual matches but will have less rewards (like 800 for winning, 600 for losing)

Easy fix with an amendment to the tos. "Any accounts determined to have participated in win trading may be stripped of their current rank, their leaderboard position, and their rank" etc etc.

[anw]

Wouldn't a separate ladder for ranked premade groups solve this. Like in order to even que you need a full premade party, this way you could have an actual party chat. It doesn't to be toxic, why can't a person just meme with people they know. Our current ranked ladder could just stay solo. Everyone gets a ride at the theme park they enjoy.

While the game doesn't have a ladder or quick match function for premades I believe you can queue into a custom game and the description says there's spectator slots. Modes that require full teams are usually pretty slow to match up so the ideal way to do this would be finding a bunch of people who all wanna play together and just going for it. The in game way to find it would be through party finder (can't verify the options while game's down atm) or lodestone.
When you have everyone, sadly there's still no match or party chat for them so- "third party tools" time
Discord or other VOIP/group chat software's probably the best for real time fun with others, sad but true. It's probably better on the community finding & matchmaking aspect too.

Finding matches for 5v5 & 6v6 stuff blindly off of a matchmaker is always a challenging thing. It sounds amazing as a concept for those few who are motivated and no doubt those games would be fun too. A shame but there are still some options out there to get your 5v5's on

[Gugnir]

While the game doesn't have a ladder or quick match function for premades I believe you can queue into a custom game and the description says there's spectator slots. Modes that require full teams are usually pretty slow to match up so the ideal way to do this would be finding a bunch of people who all wanna play together and just going for it. The in game way to find it would be through party finder (can't verify the options while game's down atm) or lodestone.
When you have everyone, sadly there's still no match or party chat for them so- "third party tools" time
Discord or other VOIP/group chat software's probably the best for real time fun with others, sad but true. It's probably better on the community finding & matchmaking aspect too.

Finding matches for 5v5 & 6v6 stuff blindly off of a matchmaker is always a challenging thing. It sounds amazing as a concept for those few who are motivated and no doubt those games would be fun too. A shame but there are still some options out there to get your 5v5's on

I agree, and while FFXIV is a PVE focused mmorpg there really shouldn't be a reason why it can't have a competitive PVP side of premade teams who are focused on elevating their PVP experience. I know for one there are people in my savage static I would be pretty happy to play with, win or lose. It would also be great teamwork building. I'm sure there are others who share the same sentiment.

[anw]

I agree, and while FFXIV is a PVE focused mmorpg there really shouldn't be a reason why it can't have a competitive PVP side of premade teams who are focused on elevating their PVP experience. I know for one there are people in my savage static I would be pretty happy to play with, win or lose. It would also be great teamwork building. I'm sure there are others who share the same sentiment.

I did a quick google search to see if there was some discord CC servers or a big PVP server and it would seem there's at least one with 13k~ members and 300 or so online atm. Their twitter page shows they're hosting little CC premade tournaments and stuff which seems pretty neat. Can't really verify much more on if they do have a ragtag group of active CC PVPers ready to face off because their server requires phone verification and I can't see inside but might be worth a look into if you and your friends are interested.
Might wanna try PF too for some casual 5v5's when the game's back up, see if it's possible to make a PUG in game, you might attract some chill people too. gl

[Corrupted]

This, you guys don't know what happened on premade Frontline and Rival Wings huh? Just because you want to queue with friend doesn't make the match suddenly fun at all, you just ruined those solo queue's mood.

Which is why they need to add an option for party queue. People already go in as a group by timing it and it does ruin the randomness since people do throw if they're put on the enemy team in a subtle way.
Seen this happen in the first season and second as well just before 6.3 as well, by no means it isn't gonna eliminate those people in casual queue but, it will reduce the numbers.

I say this after seeing many of the same faces in there that magically start playing badly when they're separate from other faces lol