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    this way you could have an actual party chat.
    We did. It was abused heavily, which is now we dont have free chat anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    We did. It was abused heavily, which is now we dont have free chat anymore.
    Taken out of context. I also said, " in order to even que you need a full premade party," If they happen to allow a party finder for this, thats why there is a kick and report button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Wouldn't a separate ladder for ranked premade groups solve this. Like in order to even que you need a full premade party, this way you could have an actual party chat. It doesn't to be toxic, why can't a person just meme with people they know. Our current ranked ladder could just stay solo. Everyone gets a ride at the theme park they enjoy.
    dont add ranked matches for premade party, cause it will bring RMT win trading. pre made party should just stay in casual matches but will have less rewards (like 800 for winning, 600 for losing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    dont add ranked matches for premade party, cause it will bring RMT win trading. pre made party should just stay in casual matches but will have less rewards (like 800 for winning, 600 for losing)
    Easy fix with an amendment to the tos. "Any accounts determined to have participated in win trading may be stripped of their current rank, their leaderboard position, and their rank" etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Wouldn't a separate ladder for ranked premade groups solve this. Like in order to even que you need a full premade party, this way you could have an actual party chat. It doesn't to be toxic, why can't a person just meme with people they know. Our current ranked ladder could just stay solo. Everyone gets a ride at the theme park they enjoy.
    While the game doesn't have a ladder or quick match function for premades I believe you can queue into a custom game and the description says there's spectator slots. Modes that require full teams are usually pretty slow to match up so the ideal way to do this would be finding a bunch of people who all wanna play together and just going for it. The in game way to find it would be through party finder (can't verify the options while game's down atm) or lodestone.
    When you have everyone, sadly there's still no match or party chat for them so- "third party tools" time
    Discord or other VOIP/group chat software's probably the best for real time fun with others, sad but true. It's probably better on the community finding & matchmaking aspect too.

    Finding matches for 5v5 & 6v6 stuff blindly off of a matchmaker is always a challenging thing. It sounds amazing as a concept for those few who are motivated and no doubt those games would be fun too. A shame but there are still some options out there to get your 5v5's on
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    Quote Originally Posted by anw View Post
    While the game doesn't have a ladder or quick match function for premades I believe you can queue into a custom game and the description says there's spectator slots. Modes that require full teams are usually pretty slow to match up so the ideal way to do this would be finding a bunch of people who all wanna play together and just going for it. The in game way to find it would be through party finder (can't verify the options while game's down atm) or lodestone.
    When you have everyone, sadly there's still no match or party chat for them so- "third party tools" time
    Discord or other VOIP/group chat software's probably the best for real time fun with others, sad but true. It's probably better on the community finding & matchmaking aspect too.

    Finding matches for 5v5 & 6v6 stuff blindly off of a matchmaker is always a challenging thing. It sounds amazing as a concept for those few who are motivated and no doubt those games would be fun too. A shame but there are still some options out there to get your 5v5's on
    I agree, and while FFXIV is a PVE focused mmorpg there really shouldn't be a reason why it can't have a competitive PVP side of premade teams who are focused on elevating their PVP experience. I know for one there are people in my savage static I would be pretty happy to play with, win or lose. It would also be great teamwork building. I'm sure there are others who share the same sentiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    I agree, and while FFXIV is a PVE focused mmorpg there really shouldn't be a reason why it can't have a competitive PVP side of premade teams who are focused on elevating their PVP experience. I know for one there are people in my savage static I would be pretty happy to play with, win or lose. It would also be great teamwork building. I'm sure there are others who share the same sentiment.
    I did a quick google search to see if there was some discord CC servers or a big PVP server and it would seem there's at least one with 13k~ members and 300 or so online atm. Their twitter page shows they're hosting little CC premade tournaments and stuff which seems pretty neat. Can't really verify much more on if they do have a ragtag group of active CC PVPers ready to face off because their server requires phone verification and I can't see inside but might be worth a look into if you and your friends are interested.
    Might wanna try PF too for some casual 5v5's when the game's back up, see if it's possible to make a PUG in game, you might attract some chill people too. gl
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    Imagine explaining some tricks in chat like - player can use refill potion under pld cover, or use some chat macro to coordinate cc (why they even cut it from feast?).
    Nah, better to lock chat because toxic players definitely can't write after game or spam commands during game in chat.
    Feels like locked chat is better for toxic players because you can't retaliate lol
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    the thing that annoys me the most about CC is that you can't even queue it in a Party..
    but there is a Ranked Mode? that's like RNG Rank galore, good luck getting good team mates in this serious competitive mode.. lol but tbh aside of that Thanks to PvP I still have a the Possibility to have Fun while playing Samurai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnPo View Post
    Imagine explaining some tricks in chat like - player can use refill potion under pld cover, or use some chat macro to coordinate cc (why they even cut it from feast?).
    Nah, better to lock chat because toxic players definitely can't write after game or spam commands during game in chat.
    Feels like locked chat is better for toxic players because you can't retaliate lol
    "Retaliating" does absolutely nothing other than waste your time. The person spamming "good game" 6 times in a row after you lost the first team fight isnt constructing a rational argument, they are just venting their frustration. Typing up a storm wont achieve anything other than annoy the hell out of the rest of the team either. For that reason I am in favor of locking party chat in CC
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