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  1. #121
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    The difficulty is fine when you're required to get through it weekly for 530 gear over and over. No one wants to have to keep wiping to Nymeia enrage because people aren't pushing their buttons, when they just really want a clear for their upgraded gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    People suddenly realizing that FFXIV is actually an easy game?

    And before anyone says Ivalice or Nier where harder, no. The mechanics were just as easy to follow as then.
    DSR and the current final boss of savage would like to have a word with you

    I think its dangerous that the harder raids are getting more challenging and the easier content is getting easier.... increasing the difficulty gap with a growing chasm of a middle ground. It doesnt bode well for providing players a pathway to improve.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cach View Post
    These last two alliance raids kinda hit the sweet spot of appearing to be dangerous but having practically no challenge to them at the same time. Some people might die, but chances of wiping are slim to none. Whether you think that's good or bad, depends on what you're looking for I guess.

    As much as people like to poo-poo on Crystal Tower, at least some parts of it are still dangerous. Void Ark series too.
    Crystal Tower's danger is not a good example. Dun Scaith however is probably the best raid in terms of difficulty even after all this time
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    DSR and the current final boss of savage would like to have a word with you

    I think its dangerous that the harder raids are getting more challenging and the easier content is getting easier.... increasing the difficulty gap with a growing chasm of a middle ground. It doesnt bode well for providing players a pathway to improve.
    My bad I mean 90 percent of the game is easy. Although even with DSR and savage a lot of it seems to be more accessible and easier to get into and learn than other games so overall FFXIV is still one of the easiest MMOs out there
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  5. #125
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    I think its dangerous that the harder raids are getting more challenging and the easier content is getting easier.... increasing the difficulty gap with a growing chasm of a middle ground. It doesnt bode well for providing players a pathway to improve.
    Nah. Barb EX and Seph Unreal were spot on for players looking for challenging content but not top floor Savage or Ultimate difficulty.

    Content is going to get easier for players when mechanics they've already seen are reused. Rubicante on normal has maybe one new mechanic? While the EX version and Soph Unreal continues to wipe the floor with the practice parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Nah. Barb EX and Seph Unreal were spot on for players looking for challenging content but not top floor Savage or Ultimate difficulty.

    Content is going to get easier for players when mechanics they've already seen are reused. Rubicante on normal has maybe one new mechanic? While the EX version and Soph Unreal continues to wipe the floor with the practice parties.
    Barb EX has been the only challenging EX trial this expansion so far. Not good when your track record is 1 for 5. The current new one is so exceptionally forgiving that while it is the second hardest, it is a long shot in regards to difficulty compared to Barb.

    These ex trials are poor stepping stones into savage content.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Barb EX has been the only challenging EX trial this expansion so far. Not good when your track record is 1 for 5. The current new one is so exceptionally forgiving that while it is the second hardest, it is a long shot in regards to difficulty compared to Barb.

    These ex trials are poor stepping stones into savage content.
    I didn't even mention the EX versions of Zodiark, Hydaelyn, and Endsinger. Rubicante is TBD as far as my own anecdotal experience goes. The first are x.0 releases, and shouldn't have high expectations as stepping stones. They are still a step up from casual difficulty whither you want to admit or not. Endsinger EX I would agree was lacking the kind of difficulty that was present with Hades EX or Barb EX for sure.
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  8. #128
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    Welcome to the FFXIV of 2023

    Things have been becoming easier for a long time now. Only hard thing was savage and ultimates wich many are now just clearing using third party software.
    Crafting was super hard and a big chore once. Now you press a macro.
    PvP was super hard once with ADDITIONAL skills on top of ALL your PvE skills. Now you have 10 buttons.

    The Soul of FFXIV is slowly getting sucked out and people are finally realizing it.
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  9. #129
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Welcome to the FFXIV of 2023

    Things have been becoming easier for a long time now. Only hard thing was savage and ultimates wich many are now just clearing using third party software.
    Crafting was super hard and a big chore once. Now you press a macro.
    PvP was super hard once with ADDITIONAL skills on top of ALL your PvE skills. Now you have 10 buttons.

    The Soul of FFXIV is slowly getting sucked out and people are finally realizing it.



    Crafting was never really hard. Just monotonous. You still used macros, even when it was "hardest". It just was a bigger pain to meld for stats, because materia was harder to obtain.



    PvP was never "hard", just in a game not built with it in mind.



    Fights have gotten somewhat easier yes, but we also have years of experience now.



    This savage tier has been one of the harder ones. Sure top groups cleared quick, but they always do.
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  10. #130
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    the only lacking thing about this stupid raid tier is that Halone didnt get her own battle theme instead getting sidled with the stupid irish pub brawl bullcrap
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