Euphrosyne feels a bit lacking

[Gemina]

Honestly reading these comments makes me bummed as hell about myself, because I find the latter two bosses extremely painful to understand telegraphs of. We did a 23/24 blind FC run and we all died a bunch, and in my second run a lot of the times on Menphina I'd no clue what telegraph I was looking for.

I'm probably just going to be called bad but I personally would have screamed if things were any harder or faster.

Yup. Menphina caused a full wipe on my initial run, and she doesn't have a blatant mechanic like Nald'Thal where you know everyone is dead if the scale is tipped. She just killed a lot of players as her telegraphs are confusing at first, and then she picked off the few players remaining. Her and Halone are not what I would call difficult bosses, but it is exceptionally easy to screw up their mechanics.

[DiaDeem]

Honestly reading these comments makes me bummed as hell about myself, because I find the latter two bosses extremely painful to understand telegraphs of. We did a 23/24 blind FC run and we all died a bunch, and in my second run a lot of the times on Menphina I'd no clue what telegraph I was looking for.

I'm probably just going to be called bad but I personally would have screamed if things were any harder or faster.

Unlike what some will tell you, difficulty in PvE content is rather subjective imho. What's easy for some may be hard for others and vice versa. I've never been good at action games. I'm ok at XIV just from how much I've played it, but I struggle with anything beyond EX and I don't even run those that much anymore. Don't feel bad if you find yourself struggling. I always ask if I'm having trouble with a specific mechanic, and then try my best to do it right, and if it doesn't work, there's always more chances to try in the future.

Menphina has a few things:
- Watch floor for half icy circle below her and avoid that half of the arena.
- Big moon always shoots in the middle
- Little moon circles explode based in how full they are. Start standing in a new moon and move after other circles have exploded.
- Wolf has a wing thingy which indicates the side he'll blast. Look at wing and at Memphina's circle from earlier to determine safe spot.

Don't be discouraged!

[Carin-Eri]

Honestly reading these comments makes me bummed as hell about myself, because I find the latter two bosses extremely painful to understand telegraphs of. We did a 23/24 blind FC run and we all died a bunch, and in my second run a lot of the times on Menphina I'd no clue what telegraph I was looking for.

I'm probably just going to be called bad but I personally would have screamed if things were any harder or faster.

Yeah, me too. I've been playing for slightly over a year now. So far as I can tell, I've hit my skill ceiling and it is, sadly, very low - I've tried and tried and tried but I just don't seem able to either react to mechanics quickly enough and never actually remember the patterns. More often that not I just end up confused and therefore dead.
And I've followed advice, watched guides etc - none of which helps. Video guides are no help as I don't have the reaction speed of the person in the video. Written guides don't help much as I can't apply what was written into my gameplay. Practice? Yeah, definitely do that but again, my reaction speed lets me down.

I guess I'll be called bad too - which is fair, because I am - however, I can't help but agree with what DiaDeem said:

Unlike what some will tell you, difficulty in PvE content is rather subjective imho. What's easy for some may be hard for others and vice versa

but I feel that sort of objectivity is mostly lost on a forum.

[DiaDeem]

Yeah, me too. I've been playing for slightly over a year now. So far as I can tell, I've hit my skill ceiling and it is, sadly, very low - I've tried and tried and tried but I just don't seem able to either react to mechanics quickly enough and never actually remember the patterns. More often that not I just end up confused and therefore dead.
And I've followed advice, watched guides etc - none of which helps. Video guides are no help as I don't have the reaction speed of the person in the video. Written guides don't help much as I can't apply what was written into my gameplay. Practice? Yeah, definitely do that but again, my reaction speed lets me down.

Something you can try to do is ask a friend who knows safe zones if you can mark them with a Square of Safety which is one of the markers you can have, and just follow them as best as you can. Something you can try too, is see who's remained alive for a while, select them and pick Focus Target. You can do that with any player as only you will see the constant marker above them, and then you can follow them around. I've done this before sometimes. And as general advice (that worked for me) try to think of XIV as a dance you have to learn. Most fights are choreographed, so you can learn the dance by following friend or Focus Targeted player. Then you can start gaining more confidence next time you're participating in the content.

Best of luck!

[Carin-Eri]

Something you can try to do is ask a friend who knows safe zones if you can mark them with a Square of Safety which is one of the markers you can have, and just follow them as best as you can. Something you can try too, is see who's remained alive for a while, select them and pick Focus Target. You can do that with any player as only you will see the constant marker above them, and then you can follow them around. I've done this before sometimes. And as general advice (that worked for me) try to think of XIV as a dance you have to learn. Most fights are choreographed, so you can learn the dance by following friend or Focus Targeted player. Then you can start gaining more confidence next time you're participating in the content.

Best of luck!

Thank you for the advice - appreciated, and I'll try to put it to use. Still not overly confident, but will definitely try it!

[SassyAssassin]

Euphrosyne is stupidly easy, you only need one run to figure out the mechanics, can die a lot if you’re healing with one hand and checking the forum on your phone with the other hand, not that Id know anything about it.

[DeNada]

Why do people keep wanting hard alliance raids.

Don't they see when that happens, people will just ilevel cheese to get the easy ones like crystal tower.

If all alliance raids are easy, people will be less inclined to ilevel cheese instead of just rolling with whatever we might get in the alliance roulette and it would be much better for it.

[Gemina]

Why do people keep wanting hard alliance raids.

The devs gave it to them with Orbonne, and the playerbase failed miserably. Of course, someone will likely come around and try to make that seem like a figment of my imagination, and I will be happy to bring up the patch notes where Cid was nerfed to the ground. And the only reason why players survive Grand Cross now is due to ilv bloat. Players fail grid mechanics in alliance raids like crazy.

[ForteNightshade]

The devs gave it to them with Orbonne, and the playerbase failed miserably. Of course, someone will likely come around and try to make that seem like a figment of my imagination, and I will be happy to bring up the patch notes where Cid was nerfed to the ground. And the only reason why players survive Grand Cross now is due to ilv bloat. Players fail grid mechanics in alliance raids like crazy.

And I will point to the date of that nerf: well over a year after Orbonne was released. In other words, the raid was nerfed long after its relevancy. You're also confusing the actual reason why they nerfed it. People were leaving because it simply isn't worthwhile EXP wise to run Orbonne over spamming Crystal Tower. Unlike Rabanastre and Ridorana which were power crept due to ilvl syncing, Orbonne wasn't. At least not anywhere to the same extent. To further bolster this point, people have been asking for Echo for the Nier raids which were notoriously easy. They still take 30-40 minutes when LotA takes fifteen and offers the exact same rewards.

The primary issue with Alliance Roulette has always been the imbalanced rewards; something the devs refuse to address. It's why getting Nier raids to pop nowadays will set you back potentially hours. Nobody wants to do them.

[Ath192]

And I will point to the date of that nerf: well over a year after Orbonne was released. In other words, the raid was nerfed long after its relevancy. You're also confusing the actual reason why they nerfed it. People were leaving because it simply isn't worthwhile EXP wise to run Orbonne over spamming Crystal Tower. Unlike Rabanastre and Ridorana which were power crept due to ilvl syncing, Orbonne wasn't. At least not anywhere to the same extent. To further bolster this point, people have been asking for Echo for the Nier raids which were notoriously easy. They still take 30-40 minutes when LotA takes fifteen and offers the exact same rewards.

The primary issue with Alliance Roulette has always been the imbalanced rewards; something the devs refuse to address. It's why getting Nier raids to pop nowadays will set you back potentially hours. Nobody wants to do them.

I recall joining lots of alliance raids in SB with groups in progress because they had repeatedly wiped at TG CID, I have never ever been queued into an Aglaia or Euphrosyne in progress.

Anecdotal as it may be I think there was a difference in difficulty.