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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    the new trial is like: wait a second or two i will set up the field with circles.... wait another second i have to summon a fireball.... here you have another second for looking at the lines... now i'll make them turn.... here we go dodge it



    the slow build up on the mechanics already existed in eden normal. it was nicely done... in aglaia abd euphoryne its just over the top.... with it getting wors since the bosses die so quickly -.-
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    Last edited by Asari5; 01-13-2023 at 04:40 AM.

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    People suddenly realizing that FFXIV is actually an easy game?

    And before anyone says Ivalice or Nier where harder, no. The mechanics were just as easy to follow as then.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    The mechanics are very much the standard thing we get in the game, the execution was probably a bit more demanding on Ivalice and Nier than what Euprhosyne has. Because overall, yeah, this one, new alliance raid is very, very easy.

    Easier than normal. That's what people mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    People suddenly realizing that FFXIV is actually an easy game?

    And before anyone says Ivalice or Nier where harder, no. The mechanics were just as easy to follow as then.
    DSR and the current final boss of savage would like to have a word with you

    I think its dangerous that the harder raids are getting more challenging and the easier content is getting easier.... increasing the difficulty gap with a growing chasm of a middle ground. It doesnt bode well for providing players a pathway to improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    I think its dangerous that the harder raids are getting more challenging and the easier content is getting easier.... increasing the difficulty gap with a growing chasm of a middle ground. It doesnt bode well for providing players a pathway to improve.
    Nah. Barb EX and Seph Unreal were spot on for players looking for challenging content but not top floor Savage or Ultimate difficulty.

    Content is going to get easier for players when mechanics they've already seen are reused. Rubicante on normal has maybe one new mechanic? While the EX version and Soph Unreal continues to wipe the floor with the practice parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Nah. Barb EX and Seph Unreal were spot on for players looking for challenging content but not top floor Savage or Ultimate difficulty.

    Content is going to get easier for players when mechanics they've already seen are reused. Rubicante on normal has maybe one new mechanic? While the EX version and Soph Unreal continues to wipe the floor with the practice parties.
    Barb EX has been the only challenging EX trial this expansion so far. Not good when your track record is 1 for 5. The current new one is so exceptionally forgiving that while it is the second hardest, it is a long shot in regards to difficulty compared to Barb.

    These ex trials are poor stepping stones into savage content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Barb EX has been the only challenging EX trial this expansion so far. Not good when your track record is 1 for 5. The current new one is so exceptionally forgiving that while it is the second hardest, it is a long shot in regards to difficulty compared to Barb.

    These ex trials are poor stepping stones into savage content.
    I didn't even mention the EX versions of Zodiark, Hydaelyn, and Endsinger. Rubicante is TBD as far as my own anecdotal experience goes. The first are x.0 releases, and shouldn't have high expectations as stepping stones. They are still a step up from casual difficulty whither you want to admit or not. Endsinger EX I would agree was lacking the kind of difficulty that was present with Hades EX or Barb EX for sure.
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    Miyu Bubbles
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    I don't really care about difficulty as much as I care about how Aglaia was way more creative and entertaining. Nophica's fight is also awful for the eyes.
    Euphrosyne really feels like just another dungeon.
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    mostly the problem is that they've really undertuned boss health.
    If they could get an HP bar buff and move faster on mechanics it might pick up.
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    Even though a good group plows through them in no time, I still prefer it to the slugfest that was Nier raids with weaker groups, the bosses there took FOREVER.
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