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  1. #31
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    That was ironic.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Your point being the implication that the surge in activity is solely due to the start of a new Series. My point being that this surge of activity exists with the start of every PvP season, regardless of a new Series being released.


    Once more, I'd like to point out that doubling the amount of Series doesn't mean SE will double the amount of resources spent on designing rewards. You would just end up with more Series that have simple recolours, or very basic mounts.
    Alright, if you're so certain this won't work and im wrong. i wanna hear what your idea is... certainly it must be better then mine.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    To address once more the same elephant in the room, why does ranked need incentives to push players to play it? If fun and competition to similar skill levels is not enough of a factor, where are we going with this?

    Food for thought.
    another point i was trying to make.
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  4. #34
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    I really wish they would make a glowy version of the Wolf collar weapons. They already look great, so glows with with a blood/darkness theme swirling around them would make them stand out. I mean, have you seen that dragoon spear?
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    Last edited by Petite; 01-17-2023 at 10:55 AM.

  5. #35
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    they remade the grayhound armor and gave it to us so... i mean the possibility is not 0
    @petite
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  6. #36
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    This might be different with the people everyone else plays with, but I find about a good 80%-90% of the play population will only step foot in any kind of PvP content because of good series rewards. (Myself included). The mode is absolutely an afterthought, its horribly unbalanced in just about every way in all aspects of PvP (CC's, health, damage modifiers, defense modifiers, ability damage) The maps to play are all either just made long ago and the design was an afterthought, or they're new like Crystaline and suck anyway for a push the cart type map. Bugs and glitches that get reported for PvP take months to fix, and there's still literally no matchmaking system. You can't go in with a party, so yes, of course it's an afterthought.

    If there weren't some fancy rewards at the "very end" of the series, I wouldn't be surprised if only about less than 10% of the entire population stuck around to "continuously play" PvP.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopebot View Post
    If there weren't some fancy rewards at the "very end" of the series, I wouldn't be surprised if only about less than 10% of the entire population stuck around to "continuously play" PvP.
    That's not really a valid argument because that fact goes for pretty much all FFXIV contents if there were no rewards. The only content that would remain would be night clubs /s.

    In my honest opinion, PvP just doesn't have enough rewards and the ones we have are too easy/quick to get, hence why there's a big drop-off after 2 weeks.

    Compare PvP to Savage where it takes the average PF raider around 16 weeks to get BiS and it's easy to see why Savage retains more players by default.

    Personally, I wish we had:
    -a new season-spanning currency (like the old Wolf Collars. 3 Collars if you end the season in Bronze all the way up to 8 for Crystal with Collar gear costing 12 Collars each);
    -doubled Crystal Trophy token prices (so people don't get glamour gear so insanely quick)
    -a new set of HD remastered glamour gear per 2 seasons (instead of every 4 seasons like currently);
    -glowing weapons and chestpieces (The only glowing PvP weapons we've ever had date all the way back to ARR)
    -more portrait kits (frames, badges, portrait poses, backgrounds);
    -access to unique crafting reagents (so we can make gil in pvp in other ways than just desynthesizing pvp gear and buying orchestrion rolls);
    -pvp-themed housing furnishings and chocobo bardings.
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    Last edited by Petite; 01-18-2023 at 06:02 AM.

  8. #38
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    Rewards are what keep most people playing. I have barely ran any roulettes since I maxed my levels and only do so if my friends happen to ask me to join them.

    I don't find stuff like solo PotD worth the time investment in reclearing the lower levels, so I don't do it. I don't really care about triple triad or fishing as they are a chore and the rewards are lacking, so I don't do them.

    I occasionally play PvP even when I don't have anything to gain from it because despite its clunkiness I find it often fun. I would play a lot more if there was something interesting to gain.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    Alright, if you're so certain this won't work and im wrong. i wanna hear what your idea is... certainly it must be better then mine.
    Not really sure what you're getting at here. I think you're completely missing the point that doubling the amount of Series doesn't double the amount of resources they'll use to design rewards.
    What part of that "won't work", and why would I need to bring up an idea just because I'm pointing something out regarding yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    they remade the grayhound armor and gave it to us so... i mean the possibility is not 0
    @petite
    Are you talking about the recoloured version of the Hellhound Attire (top 100 reward from Feast season 5) that they used for the top 100 reward for Feast season 6?
    If yes, you should know that's how they've handled the majority of the 20 Feast seasons. Only season 13 and 20 had absolutely unique rewards.
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  10. #40
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    People don't play for fun, they play for rewards :'D
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