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    Deo14's Avatar
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    Thea Shinri
    World
    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    We give: "Endwalker Samurai has a bloated number of actions. Examples: Shoha II not being simply an upgrade or conditional effect of Shoha, Ogi Namikiri being separate from Ikishoten. Additionally, the removal of varied Kenki costs (and the lesser frequency of burst Kenki generation) has made SAM's gauge expenditure feel increasingly like Shinten-spam."

    We get: *Kaiten removed. All gauge use outside of movement skills is now effectively Shinten-spam.*

    ...: "But hey, the community said there was action bloat! And you all mentioned Shinten spam!"
    Best part is that because Shinten is 25 kenki and Kaiten was 20, it made it so now you would leave burst with 10 kenki, so you want to use that last kenki for gap closer to get extra 100p under pot. So not only there is exact same amount of actions you use in burst, but you also use same amount of buttons, and on top of that, you use gap closer for its damage (which imo is much worse design that using X before every Y). Burst barely changed, and you get very, very slightly less actions in filler, which is really not the problematic part. All it did was to make freestyle SAM even more viable.

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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Best part is that because Shinten is 25 kenki and Kaiten was 20, it made it so now you would leave burst with 10 kenki, so you want to use that last kenki for gap closer to get extra 100p under pot. So not only there is exact same amount of actions you use in burst, but you also use same amount of buttons, and on top of that, you use gap closer for its damage (which imo is much worse design that using X before every Y). Burst barely changed, and you get very, very slightly less actions in filler, which is really not the problematic part. All it did was to make freestyle SAM even more viable.
    Tbf, I'm not going to give them crap over the ~4 rppm difference of the gap closer under pot, and I don't mind "Freestyle" SAM being less punishing.

    I just think the gauge should have a goddamn point and worry that they'll now, instead of returning Kaiten or reverting Guren/Senei to 50 gauge, probably just remove Yaten/Guren from the gauge, too and replace them with 3 shared charges on a 30s CD.*

    * (Not that I'd hate 2-3 shared charges for Yaten/Gyoten each on a 10s CD or shorter, on the gauge, to be clear.)
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