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  1. #1
    Player
    Renathras's Avatar
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    Ren Thras
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I do. Just post yes or no below so we can get a good idea. I don't think I've ever seen a rework get this amount of bad feedback so quickly before. Even SMN had a lot of praise at the very beginning before people realized just how braindead it became.
    No, SMN was derided instantly.

    MCH was also attacked.

    Kaiten was and still is attacked.

    SCH into ShB losing a lot of abilities was also attacked. So was SCH going into EW because people didn't think Expedience was cool enough...little did they know...

    BRD into ShB losing its party utility was attacked.

    WHM for all of SB was attacked.

    This is just a sampling, but yeah, this is hardly the first time or even the most bad feed back most quickly of changes.

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    I'm neutral on it. I don't like the 2 min window and the game revolving around it, so I don't like yet another Job going to that. But on the other hand, the changes don't seem terrible, either. I'm pretty "meh" either way.
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    animeking's Avatar
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    Anime King
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I feel like this change is either SE testing to see how the community reacts to this new change so they can implement something similar to the other tanks or this is an in between change to flush out issues that may show up so they can make more effective changes to the tanks during 7.0.

    but no, I'm not liking it so far and I'm not a fan of playing PLD.
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    i don't like it yet, but maybe i will learn to deal with it.

    mained the old rotation since 3.0, rewriting muscle memory is pain.
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    Emitans's Avatar
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    I feel pretty neutral on new PLD. But PLD has always been my least played tank. Just doing roulettes and stuff it's nice to be able to Holy Spirit smartly to keep uptime since you have instant casts of it so often.
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    Alphyn Vyrs
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    If they're gonna leave Goring Blade as is going forward, it could use a rework that provides it a rename and give it a new animation where you release a blast of energy with your shield so we can get some more shield play into the Job again. As meh as old Shield Swipe was back in the day it was nice that you were reminded occasionally you were on the sword and board Job. Goring Blade feels weird, like it should be firing a linear shock-wave or something (though I am of the opinion that thinks Blasting Zone on GNB should have some AoE splash damage for it's hitbox) because the animation while still giving off skilled swordplay vibes worked better prior, due to the skill resulting in a DoT and now that it's gone it's idk a bit flat to me but it's also been ages since we got Goring Blade so maybe I just have to get used to it lol.

    IF I had to I could learn to live with this version of PLD but the way Goring Blade was adjusted gives this rework rather obvious placeholder vibes until 7.0 swings around so I'm not thrilled with it but it's definitely not terrible either just very idk I'm of two minds on this atm. Grading on a scale considering the turn around time, definitely a good effort at trying to address the problems the community had with it in 6.2...but I also don't Savage raid so for w/e that's worth coming from a player like me XD
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    Last edited by Alpheus; 01-13-2023 at 04:17 PM.

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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpheus View Post
    If they're gonna leave Goring Blade as is going forward, it could use a rework that provides it a rename and give it a new animation where you release a blast of energy with your shield so we can get some more shield play into the Job again.
    Goring blade definitely feels like it's going to be updated in 7.0 like how Hot Shot became Air Anchor or Tornado Kick became phantom rush.
    They just had no time/priority to add new animations to PLD or didn't felt that it was necessary.

    Overall it feels like the community like the new PLD more than the previous one.
    I really like how the burst window is now the Blade combo into a neat GCD priority.

    The blade combo is basically spamming the same button 4 times in a row but at least the animations are different and the spam doesn't feel redundant.
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    Mute Shellback
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I just dont understand it. I'll freely admit PLD was never my strongest, or most enjoyed tank to play.

    So what, you're supposed to double dip with Req and FoF now? 8 GCDs in buffs, so your Confi-Blades are 4 GCDs, then you gotta hit Boring so that's 5. How TF is this burst supposed to make sense? In dungeons I cant help but feel like I'm being punished for playing it how it used to flow; I'm not used to nearly going OOM on PLD.

    It still has a 63s GCD loop I hear? So what even was the point of adjusting it to better align within the 2min meta? It's still supposed to lose a GCD right? You give up [sword oath thing i forget the name of], so other than it's defensive updates with Veil, Shelltron, and reintroducing and updating Bulwark what was even the point of this "rework" that couldn't have been done without all this pomp and circumstance?
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    I just dont understand it. I'll freely admit PLD was never my strongest, or most enjoyed tank to play.

    So what, you're supposed to double dip with Req and FoF now? 8 GCDs in buffs, so your Confi-Blades are 4 GCDs, then you gotta hit Boring so that's 5. How TF is this burst supposed to make sense? In dungeons I cant help but feel like I'm being punished for playing it how it used to flow; I'm not used to nearly going OOM on PLD.

    It still has a 63s GCD loop I hear? So what even was the point of adjusting it to better align within the 2min meta? It's still supposed to lose a GCD right? You give up [sword oath thing i forget the name of], so other than it's defensive updates with Veil, Shelltron, and reintroducing and updating Bulwark what was even the point of this "rework" that couldn't have been done without all this pomp and circumstance?
    The 63s loop depends on your speed and commitment to alignment. At 2.50s you can do perfect 60s and aligning it with either dropping Atonements or replacing GCDs with Holy Spirit hardcasts.
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    I don't like that Goring Blade was changed into yet another Sonic Break (first Shadow Fang, now Goring), but the rest seems... fine?

    Divine Might is pretty cool, actually. It improves further on flexibility, even, despite letting PLD take better advantage of its window.

    Had it just done that instead and largely left Goring unaffected, I'd be happier, but it isn't too bad.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-13-2023 at 06:21 PM.

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