So does every hate new PLD now?

[Lamarcy2699]

It's just not fun any more imo. It's far too similar to gunbreaker and lost a lot of its adaptiveness, not saying it doesn't have any but it's definitely a lot less adaptive than before. It's just a half-baked unfun job that feels clunky to use (especially goring blade). We got another button at a time where we needed less. I was hoping for a somewhat ok change but instead we got whatever this is and it's honestly upsetting.

[Videra]

Seeing as how you havent played ANY of the tanks, Nor even have a level 90 in anything.

Your statement is false.

A tanks job is NOT to outshine in DPS, but to hold the agro and take the punishment.

Maybe learn what the roles of each class are before you comment on something you have no clue and copy paste "what you hear"

Imagine thinking the character someone has attached to their forum profile means anything. Lol. Lmao.

[DarkBladeNemo]

I honestly don't know how to feel about it. I have mained PLD since Stormblood and it's current iteration just doesn't feel right. I'm not saying it's bad but then again I haven't played PLD since patch day (spent an hour nailing down the new rotation and then did the MSQ). I suppose whatever they did just drove me away from the job.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I'm not crazy about it. I feel that the rework just made more button bloat and the class now has a very..."samey" vibe to it to the "tank meta"

I feel Req should just be a 5th in the confit chain...rather then having its own button.

[Gserpent]

Imagine thinking the character someone has attached to their forum profile means anything. Lol. Lmao.

Imagine having the kind of attitude they have and telling others to learn to play... when they clearly have no idea what they're on about. OF are good entertainment, man.

[Nihility]

I feel like it is close to having potential but S-E loves to just cling to old weird stuff that doesn't actually fit in making unnecessary bloat. I've said this elsewhere but...

I feel like royal authority having 3+1 procs and the frequency of it happening is kind of annoying. Actually like the divine might movement freedom part but also think holy spirit looks horrible and stiff as instant cast. Trimming it down to just the divine might procs that maybe gain some stacks with levels and having it actually change holy spirit into a divine blade sort of deal, could recycle atonement and add some little glowy effects so it looks good while running around

Goring blade is just stupid. A skill you have to use on cooldown basically only because it exists and doesn't flow or interact with anything should not exist at max level. I actually think they only made it this way so you have something else to do during fight or flight

fight or flight, requiescat, and confiteor is also quite bad. It's like two pre-buttons just to get to the actual skill. Like literally the polar opposite problem of goring blade... all they do is flow while doing virtually nothing on their own which results in them just feeling like nothing but a stutter.
fight or flight is so short that your really only using it for confiteor and remembering to goring blade with a few gcd of normal rotation hopefully stuck in it
requiescat is literally just pre-confiteor
all that could be rolled into confiteor combo really easily, no need to pre-buff for the only thing worth pre-buffing to begin with, no need to start with a melee skill just to unlock a ranged combo, and rolling all that potency straight into the combo would make you feel like an absolute beast every time you use it

Killing a few buttons would make more room for paladin's extra large utility toolkit as well

[Fryfor]

Seeing as how you havent played ANY of the tanks, Nor even have a level 90 in anything.

Your statement is false.

A tanks job is NOT to outshine in DPS, but to hold the agro and take the punishment.

Maybe learn what the roles of each class are before you comment on something you have no clue and copy paste "what you hear"

How much endgame content do you engage with, again? What's your angle?

[Riion]

I hate it. To me, PLD was near perfect, and what they've replaced it with is a hideous mess. I've mained PLD for near a decade through the hardest content in the game and always thought the progression of it's rotation was ordered and logical. The old rotation was structured in such a way that you always knew what was coming off cooldown based on where you were in the rotation. It fit together so well, but not anymore. Only thing I can do is vote with my wallet, so I've canceled my sub.

[Renathras]

I feel like it is close to having potential but S-E loves to just cling to old weird stuff that doesn't actually fit in making unnecessary bloat. I've said this elsewhere but...

Level 2: Fight or Flight
Level 68: Trait; Fight or Flight upgrades to Requiescat
Level 80: Trait; Requiescat upgrades to Confiteor

People still have a "burst" button to press while leveling, it just get the additional effects as you go. At level 68, you can now use it mainly with HS for your burst. Then at level 80, Coniteor into HS spam. And finally, at level 90, Confetti into 3x Blades + whatever you can dump into the burst window after that.

Something like that? Cut 2 actions off the hotbar while still having them in the game for leveling PLDs.

EDIT: Note for clarity - When I say "upgrades to", I mean "and keeps the original effect". So Req in this scenario would have the FoF buff baked in, and Conf would have both.

[StrykerGaming]

I don't hate my PLD as it was the very first job I leveled to 90. However, I hate what they did with this last update. The nerfed it's over all damage, took away how we could recover MP, and other things. To reinforce this, the PLD was the only tank to be hit with the 'Nerf Sledgehammer of Doom,' the others weren't and they got a small buff. Figure that one out.

The PLD, IMNSHO, was in a very good place and required no changes in the magnitude that they did. Essentially, they've change the PLD to the point that the DKN & GNB are better than the PLD. Thus making the Warrior the premier tank in the game. Of which, my WAR is my new main level 90 tank.

I'm incline to let my PLD's armor gather dust until such time these developers fix what I believe they broke. Why? Here's the key question for me. The answer? "To make it simpler to play. In other words, they dumbed it down lowering the level complexity required to play it."

So, welcome the old but new Patch 3.0 V2 PLD