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    Player EZGIL's Avatar
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    New leap of Faith is trash

    No one. Literally no one asked for this. Of all things the things you could of done with the Gold saucer you choose to waste time and resources on.. this?

    The new Leap is trash. Its too long. WAY too long.

    Its not fun. Its not fun because its too long for the content. This is a basic GATE game. Basic GATE games should not take this long to do for peanuts.

    You could have given us a new game but you choose to give us a new leap, that no one asked for. A team of people literal got payed to design content this terrible. That deeply offends me.

    Congrats on designing trash that wastes peoples time for no reason.
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    leap's my fav game, sorry. i like it.
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    new leap

    this is a lot of fun tryed it and like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    leap's my fav game, sorry. i like it.
    While I agree with you and really quite liked the new map, I also recognize that those of us who actually enjoy jumping puzzles may be in the minority. And also possibly insane.

    (I mean, I willing climb Kugane Tower and jump down to the lamppost multiple times while waiting in party finder, and I spent the final tier of Eden doing my raid crafting on top of that tower, so...)

    I will admit there's some weird hitboxes, though... and this is "weird" by the standards of someone who climbs Kugane Tower enough that I know exactly how far out into the air I can stand on a given post. Specifically, there were some landing spots where it seemed to catch me on the edge, leave me standing there for a moment unable to move forward, and then slide me off into space. I'm just not currently sure if that's hitbox weirdness, the-servers-need-some-tea-and-a-nap weirdness, or intentional design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I will admit there's some weird hitboxes, though... and this is "weird" by the standards of someone who climbs Kugane Tower enough that I know exactly how far out into the air I can stand on a given post. Specifically, there were some landing spots where it seemed to catch me on the edge, leave me standing there for a moment unable to move forward, and then slide me off into space.
    Seconded. There's definitely some weirdness going on with some of the hitboxes/landing spots.

    Furthermore, I'm not sure if it was such a good idea to put upside-down pinecones as platforms: it's very hard to determine (blind trial and error excluded) where exactly you can land on those things.

    As someone already pointed out, having a checkpoint system (or 20 minutes to complete) might actually make the map more tolerable. I'd still want some of those hitboxes re-evaluated, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No reward is worth suffering through content you feel is bad. The worst thing the playerbase can do to itself is force-complete the content it hates. It leaves the false impression that despite complaints, players are generally satisfied with the content and it's okay to make more like it. If players stop working on the content even with rewards incomplete (like Pagos when it first came out), it will send a clear sign that changes need to be made.

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    The problem with the newest Leap of Faith map (Sylphstep) is that it's honestly just too god damn long, with Kugane Tower-level jumps and only 10 minutes to complete it.

    I've ended up trying the map twice, and both times I ended up taking a dive near the end, causing me to lose all progress and not have enough time to complete the GATE. These are the first Leap of Faith GATEs I have ever failed, mind you.

    I'd really appreciate it if they could at least give us 20 minutes to complete the map instead of the usual 10.
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    Worst part is that you could literally go hours with ONLY leap of faith. The first two maps, I'll do them if I need the challenge log. The newest one has some weird hit boxes, for me anyways, and is extremely punishing more so than the other two maps.

    If it gave more MGP/had more time in it, I'd deal with it, but for now I'll flat out ignore it.

    Plus where I'm at with chocobo racing I can get just about as much MGP, if not more, from 3 chocobo races in the R300
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZGIL View Post
    No one. Literally no one asked for this. Of all things the things you could of done with the Gold saucer you choose to waste time and resources on.. this?

    The new Leap is trash. Its too long. WAY too long.

    Its not fun. Its not fun because its too long for the content. This is a basic GATE game. Basic GATE games should not take this long to do for peanuts.

    You could have given us a new game but you choose to give us a new leap, that no one asked for. A team of people literal got payed to design content this terrible. That deeply offends me.

    Congrats on designing trash that wastes peoples time for no reason.
    I have to agree. It would have been better to make an entirely new mini game as opposed to...yet another jump puzzle. This time with people spending 5+ minutes on the pinecone segments which have proven particularly irksome.
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    Авейонд-сны


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    I think people just don't like it because it's too hard for them, but games usually have some sort of challenge in them.

    They make 2 new GATEs each expansion usually. It's part of the regular content cycle.

    It's popular content among sprouts because it's very low level content and one of the few interesting things they can do at the start of the game.

    I think the developers just enjoy the Gold Saucer and the idea of it, because Mahjong was just a passion addition to add lore to the game (that Domans play Mahjong) and not exactly something everyone wants to queue for like GATEs.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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