Best part of a new patch? Third party tools not working.

[Midareyukki]

Nah, pretty sure mods for going futa is solely a raid buff and would only ever be used by raiders.

...raiders of what, you may ask?

The Lost Ark ;D because they're in for some booty

...

I'll stop.

Knowing or not knowing usage of 3rd party tools isn't going to affect you in-game. How come people default to condemning Raiders though? Even the once that "don't use any". Think we failed as a community here... cause we're progressive and inclusive... we should be condemning everything!

Let's also not neglect the fact that UNFORTUNATELY Viera and Hrothgar players felt reliant on the modding scene to have a more complete experence in the same vein as every other paying subscriber here.

Especially, you know, the one race that needed to pay a fantasia just to change "hairstyle".

3rd Party tools should not be viewed as the norm, and I support that view. However, there are plenty of third party tools made available (for PC players, sorry console players) who have zero impact other than quality of life. Stuff unrelated to allowing more than certain waymarks, stuff unrelated to parsing. Especially when Square Enix's response to player demand has been inconsistent and zig-zaggy. And I say "Unfortunately" because at the end of the day, yeah, third party software shouldn't have as much an impact in the community as it currently is having.

But Square's stance is comprehensive. Third Party Tools are a window to a lot of nasty stuff they don't want to handle, so it's to be frowned upon and not used. However, they won't police people because there are some tools that fall into a gray area, and other tools also draw in attention to the game as it is, allowing people to feel more invested in their character if it happens to have detriments.

So if Square isn't going to police it, why are people having their knickers in a twist over something that doesn't affect them?

Because they can be lewded with mods? Sorry but that's on the modder and you can, and should, report them asap. Because that's frowned upon by modders as a whole, and there are ways to only apply mods to your own character.
Because they can be harassed with parses? You're gonna get kicked out for underperforming either way, parses just make it easier. It's still frowned upon and considered a stupid thing to do, something SE DEFINITELY slams down on when caught. But it would otherwise be no different than me using in-game stuff to achieve the same thing, like your numbers or melds.

These things happen so rarely, yet people fear it irrationally. I attribute this both to a lack of skin when dealing with these things, and also exacerbated perception of something negative.
It's like the fear of flying. You know accidents happen, but some people still fear it even though you have more chances of getting into a car crash than a plane crash.

Let's also not forget that BLM and MNK needed tools to parse the servers' ticks to ensure they made the most out of their class. Something that has since led to the classes being changed. Sometimes a wrong happens to make a right.

[CelestiCer]

*snip*

Certainly agree with your points
Many stated and I agree that largely Developers making plugins aren't doing it out of Malice, but mostly to improve FFXIV's experience and showing Square possible upgrades and features. Hrothgar/Vierra hair included to name a few. Square knows this! and rather then pooling their own resources? they have a policy that they are not policing as you said, they are looking the other way. This costs them less money and resources, solving a lot of issues on themselves by the community even if its against ToS.

For the player-base, be it I think a minority in the west? To demonize everything so quickly? And auto default relating plugins to mostly Raiders? a tad misleading and provocative... If only we had the same valor towards all Plugins like NSFW / Lewd / Nudity / RMT etc but of course they wont... even when raiding makes up 5% or 10% at best of FFXIV =u=;

[Lunalepsy]

Just posting here for my daily dose of drama.

[Saranade]

What was I trying to gain with this post? To answer the conversation surrounding "should third party tools be allowed?" - by third party tools i simply mean additions or add-ons that are not native to the game (this excludes voice chat protocols). Programs that were not intended by the developers to be used, specifically ; Parsers, "Triggers", etc - when someone gets on the game on a PS4 its not ethical or fair any of you have these advantages. Their is simply no argument against that. If you find that your own human intelligence needs to be supplemented by AI or plugins then you are not playing the game as intended. it is indeed obvious that during every patch 3rd party tools rarely work, and I am simply giving kudos to players who continue to clear content without them. Peace out.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

"Triggers"

Someone certainly is triggered.

[CelestiCer]

Programs that were not intended by the developers to be used, specifically ; Parsers, "Triggers"

Cat's out the bag - It's somehow " Specifically Raiding plugins only " for the OP that's unfair.

Glamour Plugins to bypass not paying for Mogstation Fashion and Mounts? Race-Swap with a button to bypass not needing to pay for Fantasia's everytime? Selling Prebuild House decors with a Plugin? Body-mods to sell NSFW Gpose on Twitter for Dollars? That and so many more things, all somehow less worse then Raiding Tools? No-no, no nitpicking. Usage of All Third party tools are prohibited

Square's ToS and Yoshi made it very clear. Scrutiny on just specifically for Raiding Tools? makes no sense. It's All third party tools. Now you might find something more unfair like Raiding tools vs another plugin, but it doesn't matter. It means All third party tools.

That this bothers you, is the best part though cause it shouldn't affect you xD

[LianaThorne]

What was I trying to gain with this post? To answer the conversation surrounding "should third party tools be allowed?" - by third party tools i simply mean additions or add-ons that are not native to the game (this excludes voice chat protocols). Programs that were not intended by the developers to be used, specifically ; Parsers, "Triggers", etc - when someone gets on the game on a PS4 its not ethical or fair any of you have these advantages. Their is simply no argument against that. If you find that your own human intelligence needs to be supplemented by AI or plugins then you are not playing the game as intended. it is indeed obvious that during every patch 3rd party tools rarely work, and I am simply giving kudos to players who continue to clear content without them. Peace out.

Life's not fair, just letting you know.

Also you need to direct your complaints to Sony and do some actual research into why consoles can't mod as easily. It's possible to do but is definitely not as simple as PC modding.

PCs shouldn't be handicapped or limited just because you chose a console to play on. Bottom line is, Yoshi already stated more times than necessary that they aren't going to put anything into the game to stop modding or plugin use from occuring. Kinda just gotta suck it up and deal instead of trying to ruin the experience for other people. Maybe upgrade to a PC too because your PS4 is gonna explode sooner rather than later with how old that gen is.

[angienessyo]

What was I trying to gain with this post? To answer the conversation surrounding "should third party tools be allowed?" - by third party tools i simply mean additions or add-ons that are not native to the game (this excludes voice chat protocols). Programs that were not intended by the developers to be used, specifically ; Parsers, "Triggers", etc - when someone gets on the game on a PS4 its not ethical or fair any of you have these advantages. Their is simply no argument against that. If you find that your own human intelligence needs to be supplemented by AI or plugins then you are not playing the game as intended. it is indeed obvious that during every patch 3rd party tools rarely work, and I am simply giving kudos to players who continue to clear content without them. Peace out.

I started on PS4 and most my time on the game has been on PS4/PS5. I truly don't care if someone uses parses/triggers/whatever. I don't feel superior doing content without 3rd party tools because there's still far better players than me out there.

[Zebraoracle]

What was I trying to gain with this post? To answer the conversation surrounding "should third party tools be allowed?" - by third party tools i simply mean additions or add-ons that are not native to the game (this excludes voice chat protocols). Programs that were not intended by the developers to be used, specifically ; Parsers, "Triggers", etc - when someone gets on the game on a PS4 its not ethical or fair any of you have these advantages. Their is simply no argument against that. If you find that your own human intelligence needs to be supplemented by AI or plugins then you are not playing the game as intended. it is indeed obvious that during every patch 3rd party tools rarely work, and I am simply giving kudos to players who continue to clear content without them. Peace out.

Actual clown hours lmao. Kinda cements the idea that you only post to troll. Surprise surprise.

[Midareyukki]

Third party tools appear to be working again given what other people have been saying.

Alas, poor Saranade. She'll become the Mariah Carrey of anti-3rd Party Tools, entering suspended animation until whenever they cease to function.