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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Interestingly, a lot of people believed the Golbez + Four Fiends cliffhanger at the end of 6.1 being that of the EW trial story series. Which would've been a first for the game as far as Im aware since they normally never hint at any of the extra trials in msq, only normal raids series. So its kinda of a given that many people would feel that way with post-EW story.

    But isnt that kinda the point of it? I mean we already defeated this cosmic being of despair and the story team already discussed that the conflict would be winding down; especially with this story hopefully bridging what we would eventually expect with the start of the new story arc in 7.0. So while its understandable to feel like post-EW isnt that much to run home around (which of course it is) its also kinda stupid to compare it to say the build up in previous post-expansion stories. So far the void story, along with Azdaja is relatively a minor conflict that we just decided to stumble upon. Im just currently interested where they're taking it and see what's the next big thing to come and thats all I need for now with post-EW.
    While I do understand that you can still have low stakes and be a great story that is properly paced like 4.2-4.3 with Yotsuyu's arc. I also am just not a fan of what thus far appears to be copy paste FF4 characters/plot in the MSQ, I expect that from side stories but not the main scenario. It just feels like somehow nothing is happening with the big bad's plot and yet we are rushing through everything with Zero at the same time for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    While I do understand that you can still have low stakes and be a great story that is properly paced like 4.2-4.3 with Yotsuyu's arc. I also am just not a fan of what thus far appears to be copy paste FF4 characters/plot in the MSQ, I expect that from side stories but not the main scenario. It just feels like somehow nothing is happening with the big bad's plot and yet we are rushing through everything with Zero at the same time for some reason.
    The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.
    People forget that the FF series is self-referential. Tropes, characters, scenes and dialogue are often repeated for the sake of references and nostalgia. Outside of Gilgamesh who for the most part is the same character every time you see him (barring specific encounters), FF14 does what other FF games do when it comes to moments and stuff from the previous installments.

    If people don't know, there's a page for more recent games in the FF wiki called "Allusions" that document these moments for you.

    Sometimes FF14 does spend a whole lot of time focused on one installment, but it's not to the point of plagiarism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Doubt it. That guy lives in his own world and anything outside that doesn't exist. I seriously think the dude is mentally ill.
    No, his ego is just mammoth sized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.
    We also didn't get back stabbed by Estinien cause something felt like brainwashing him again while having to deal with a deamon door all because he also has feelings the person we have high romantic feelings for. Or thar we had to fight someone's dead and semi brainwashed parents that beg us to kill them before fighting Rubicante. Though I guess the fighting dead parents part could happen in 6.4.
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    idk what kind of standard you put the game on, but its not it, lol you are trying to compare the post 6.0 story like its supposed to tell a story similar to endwalker is pretty crazy, we dont even have an overarching villans yet, and you are complaining that the story isnt lord of the rings heavy enough!? i mean we get it heavensward was a good story but it was built around from post arr content, just like post ew is building around 7.0...lol idk i think its time to just quit the game when u compare a bun to zodiark summonings...i get people dislike the game for whatever reason, but its seems aspergers levels of criticisms, i feel like you need another game or help with whatever going on because comparing the game to a triple oscar movie is a lil too much friend...and crazy part is msq has been meh...thats b/c im hoping new xpac story is good
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    Nor do a lot of people in the comments of that video, it goes against their 'Everyone disliked it or the most debated expansion in its life' concepts. I am just convinced they are a troll at this point or someone with an unhealthy attachment to it and doesn't like the story hasn't gone the route of their fanfiction.
    That moment when he said "Oh its THAT guy", I almost fell over laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    That moment when he said "Oh its THAT guy", I almost fell over laughing.
    Hopefuly it'll be his Aveyond-wakeupcall
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    That moment when he said "Oh its THAT guy", I almost fell over laughing.
    Let's be honest, how many of us have the same reaction?
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    LMAO, I checked OP's "reddit answer edit", and it's mostly just the same guy he screenshoted over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    LMAO, I checked OP's "reddit answer edit", and it's mostly just the same guy he screenshoted over and over.
    Tinfoil hat theory the person they screenshot is probably OPs Reddit user :P I am going to believe that in my fanfiction of this user's habits and responses lol
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