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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by undull1 View Post
    The insistence on cramming the scions back into relevance and the new edgy OC (No tipping your hat is not characterisation, it's called being a pillock) makes these new patches feel akin to awkward fan fiction.

    If only there were a new party of diverse and interesting characters we could party up with, that we already knew through MSQ content, who also happen to be THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERS RELATING TO THE VOID......

    Btw on a completely unrelated note the shadowbtinger role quests were pretty cool. I hope they become more relevant.
    Question. Where's the cramming? The people that have joined up with us have made sense. I'd maybe agree if they had all the Scion back and part of every piece of this but that hasn't been the case. You are the only person I've seen ever have an issue with a hat tipping. Its simply something she does, akin to male characters who swipe their nose with their thumb for cool factor. If that alone make something fan faction...Jesus christ I wouldn't want to be a writer trying to please you people.

    I'll tell you like I told someone else here, this is about saving Vrtra's sister. What good does a new cast do here? I'd rather be stepping into the 13th with my most trusted allies.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    You are the only person I've seen ever have an issue with a hat tipping. Its simply something she does, akin to male characters who swipe their nose with their thumb for cool factor.
    I have no major complaints with msq, but it feels like she tips her hat no less than 1 time per voiced conversation with her, and nearly every conversation with her is voiced. In animes the nose swipe (or really any character pose quirk) is generally not done anywhere near that often unless the character is being poked fun of.

    Once my friend pointed out how often she fiddles with her hat I couldn't stop noticing it lol
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  3. #173
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    Zero in a nut shell


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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    I have no major complaints with msq, but it feels like she tips her hat no less than 1 time per voiced conversation with her, and nearly every conversation with her is voiced. In animes the nose swipe (or really any character pose quirk) is generally not done anywhere near that often unless the character is being poked fun of.

    Once my friend pointed out how often she fiddles with her hat I couldn't stop noticing it lol
    And my question is...why does this bother you? (If it does) It harms no one and changes nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    And my question is...why does this bother you? (If it does) It harms no one and changes nothing.
    If someone in your fc nominates it as the patch day drinking game you will be hospitalized.

    On a more serious note, as an animator it’s a little jarring because it is basically a stock animation that gets reused again and again as the focus of a scene. It doesn’t help that in XIV the character animation is usually awkwardly staggered so everything comes to a complete stop so Zero can pull her hat down, pause, then do/say whatever she mean to do/say. They’re starting to put more effort into animation (Estinien jumping a fence, Jullus tearing the bread) so it’d be nice if Zero got variations of the quirk if she is to do it so often.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    And my question is...why does this bother you? (If it does) It harms no one and changes nothing.
    Imagine someone saying " You know?" after everything they say you know? It's gets a little annoying after a while you know? Like it's suppose to be a quirky thing they do you know but eventually it's the only thing you can focus on you know? You know what I'm saying?

    But seriously I just ignore it too but I've noticed she does it a lot and I'm Mr. Oblivious. I can see why others would get tired of it.
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    I liked her hat tipping. Nice little character quirk. Plus if I had a hat like that in real life you bet I would be doing that too!

    I do get why people would have liked a newer cast, especially how Endwalker finished with them going their separate ways, but it makes sense who we have. It would have been a crime had Y'shtola not been involved given how we know crossing the Shard is important to her. The twins made sense as they where operating in that area. Gra felt a little forced perhaps, but quickly went off to do his own thing in the Raids once Support Duty business was done, just like the twins. Estinien is the only one who kinda feels a little loose, but I like his relationship with Vetra at least.

    I think we may have one ‘legacy’ character join us perhaps in 7.0, and hopefully Zero if she survives the patch, but I think we will get to meet a new main cast of characters to fall in love with. It all depends where its taking place. My bet is we will rescue Azdaja and accompany her back to Meracydia. I could be wrong, and if I am then I at least hope they do new things with whoever joins us!

    Quote Originally Posted by undull1 View Post
    Btw on a completely unrelated note the shadowbtinger role quests were pretty cool. I hope they become more relevant.
    I would LOVE it if they do manage to add them somehow to current plot outside of new flavor text, that whole questline is one of my favs in the game. However I do not think they will do anything big unfortunately. No way are they gonna force players to get level 80 on at least two DPS jobs, a healer and tank to progress the MSQ.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Imagine someone saying " You know?" after everything they say you know? It's gets a little annoying after a while you know? Like it's suppose to be a quirky thing they do you know but eventually it's the only thing you can focus on you know? You know what I'm saying?

    But seriously I just ignore it too but I've noticed she does it a lot and I'm Mr. Oblivious. I can see why others would get tired of it.
    Wouldn't bother me tbh. Raijin from FF8 is exactly like this. If that becomes all you can focus on that seem more like a personal problem. (Not a shot at anyone, just saying). Being tired of something so miniscule just seems nitpicky
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Wouldn't bother me tbh. Raijin from FF8 is exactly like this. If that becomes all you can focus on that seem more like a personal problem. (Not a shot at anyone, just saying). Being tired of something so miniscule just seems nitpicky
    You're more tolerant than most then. If my WoL had the ability he would slap her hand down with a "Could you not?"
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    You're more tolerant than most then. If my WoL had the ability he would slap her hand down with a "Could you not?"
    After a decade of recycled animations in FFXIV, I’m immune.

    There are other, more egregious examples of this, especially in Endwalker, so it’s a bit much to just put it all on her and get annoyed by it.

    The Ea have their whole head detachment animation sequence, the Omicrons have the same head-scratching that the Sahagin have because they share a skeleton, and Haurchefant had his whole thing that even got made into an emote.

    Hildebrand’s quests are even worse in this regard but Hildebrand is Hildebrand.
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