Thread: Review of 6.3 Story Content

I actually agree with the OP on alot of the stuff, except the scions. I like the scions they have been my brothers in arms for a long while. Yes there is long periods of time where they arent doing anything Alisae for almost 2 full expansions to name one. But I dont mind them that much I wanted some of them to die off but they were not courageous enough to let them die or the main villian for that matter.

The Abuse of the Four Elemental Archfiends is disturbing to me tho. Not only did they get the order of their power completely wrong on Barbariccia and Cagnazzo just forcing 2 of the 4 into dungeon fights was worse enough for me. It leads me to believe they intend to have us either fight Golbez or chase him into the next expansion. Also the Moon thing where he is at is just foreshadowing of a Zeromus fight thats planned. Its not a hard read. We will get a new lunar subterrannae dungeon in 6.4 or 6.5. But Its just feeling like they have a direction but dont know how to push the further.

Lets take Gaia, I really didnt enjoy her because I hate angsty teenager story lines as it is. But Thanks to Ryne being a well written character for ShB MSQ I was able to tolerate it. Zero is just written as an edgy teenager again and done badly without balance. We also see that she is forcefully being rushed as well with her failing to protect a villiage all alone as the reason that she see's herself as not useful. No one else bothered to protect that villiage. We have no backstory as to why she was alone.

Lets be real here. The Writer for ShB is either working on two projects at once, or is washed up. Which is hard to believe after ShB was so successful and one of my favorite expansions period. So I think we are stuck with this lackluster expansion until FFXVI is released and Yoshida gets his full team back because we know its the main driving factor for why the content has been so little and problematically written. I love this game so much but I am just dissappointed with how everything turned out. The slow paced ShB set up for Endwalker with Lunar Primals(Very lackluster) and the mess of Pacing for the Climactic ending of the saga mixed with a jumbled mess of lore for the 13th that should very well be its own expansion as it is. I miss the old ff14. It cant just expect ShB to keep the hype going people are getting tired of it. I read more and more each day.

Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Besides, didn't the Four Fiends not last very long in FFIV anyway?

The Four Fiends were used through out ff4 up until the second to last dungeon before the descent in the lunar final dungeon. They were a huge part of the story and ressurected as well.

Also Yeah I'm not saying the writer is bad Im just trying to figure out what happened. But we do know that half of yoshi p's team is working on ffXVI so makybe Ishiwaka is not well equipped with her usual team who knows. just feels very bad right now. At least for me.

Originally Posted by Talonk

The Four Fiends were used through out ff4 up until the second to last dungeon before the descent in the lunar final dungeon. They were a huge part of the story and ressurected as well.

Also Yeah I'm not saying the writer is bad Im just trying to figure out what happened. But we do know that half of yoshi p's team is working on ffXVI so makybe Ishiwaka is not well equipped with her usual team who knows. just feels very bad right now. At least for me.

Their characters in og FFIV were all left at their one shining moment which is just one scene when they appear in the whole game. Which works regardless.

Originally Posted by Talonk

I actually agree with the OP on alot of the stuff, except the scions. I like the scions they have been my brothers in arms for a long while. Yes there is long periods of time where they arent doing anything Alisae for almost 2 full expansions to name one. But I dont mind them that much I wanted some of them to die off but they were not courageous enough to let them die or the main villian for that matter.

The Abuse of the Four Elemental Archfiends is disturbing to me tho. Not only did they get the order of their power completely wrong on Barbariccia and Cagnazzo just forcing 2 of the 4 into dungeon fights was worse enough for me. It leads me to believe they intend to have us either fight Golbez or chase him into the next expansion. Also the Moon thing where he is at is just foreshadowing of a Zeromus fight thats planned. Its not a hard read. We will get a new lunar subterrannae dungeon in 6.4 or 6.5. But Its just feeling like they have a direction but dont know how to push the further.

Lets take Gaia, I really didnt enjoy her because I hate angsty teenager story lines as it is. But Thanks to Ryne being a well written character for ShB MSQ I was able to tolerate it. Zero is just written as an edgy teenager again and done badly without balance. We also see that she is forcefully being rushed as well with her failing to protect a villiage all alone as the reason that she see's herself as not useful. No one else bothered to protect that villiage. We have no backstory as to why she was alone.

Lets be real here. The Writer for ShB is either working on two projects at once, or is washed up. Which is hard to believe after ShB was so successful and one of my favorite expansions period. So I think we are stuck with this lackluster expansion until FFXVI is released and Yoshida gets his full team back because we know its the main driving factor for why the content has been so little and problematically written. I love this game so much but I am just dissappointed with how everything turned out. The slow paced ShB set up for Endwalker with Lunar Primals(Very lackluster) and the mess of Pacing for the Climactic ending of the saga mixed with a jumbled mess of lore for the 13th that should very well be its own expansion as it is. I miss the old ff14. It cant just expect ShB to keep the hype going people are getting tired of it. I read more and more each day.

Alot of this doesn't make sense. How can they have a direction yet not push forward when...we are and have been moving this whole time? Also why do power levels matter when this isn't FF4? The writers can make whoever they chose to be stronger or weaker tbf.

Next I don't see how Zero is an "edgy teen". She's a voidesent dude. Is she suppose to act like king mog or something? And how exactly is she being rushed? We got to see a glimpse into her past that parallels what happened in the present. This time she's learned from it and is beginning to question more things. It's not just "what is a friend " anymore.

It's odd you speak as if EW wasn't and hasn't been a success when numbers would factually say otherwise. Has the content actually been little or has it just been things not interesting you? Has the writing actually been problematic or is that just an opinion. That's the thing with all this. I miss aspects of old XIV but wholesale I wouldn't want to go back to old XIV

Reread what I said. They have a direction but dont know how to push forward with it. Zero is basically voidsent gaia.

Originally Posted by Talonk

Lets be real here. The Writer for ShB is either working on two projects at once, or is washed up.

Ishikawa stepped down after 6.0 and took an advisory role, currently we have new writers on board—her "juniors." She's barely involved in the actual writing and just supervises now.

Originally Posted by Graeham

We agree with the tread. Guild must get Ikawa remove to bring back No Shadow God. Only by make personal attak on career can this happen. Also remove English translator because is support Venar. Guild is bringing the torch and the fork for revenger.

. I keep seeing this guy does anyone know what he's trying to say. Best I can figure he's trying to career assassinate the shadow god?