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  1. #1
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Usually I can't even try to parse what he says without going cross-eyed, but "buuz kill" is a pretty good line.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    On the Buuz scene, I honestly don't think Julius breaking bread with Zero was that bad or poor for the game itself. Nor do I think it was a waste of assets. It's honestly not hard to do what they did with the buuz, it's just two models and some tweening.

    The buuz never bothered me (anyway).

    What did was Zero being her usual "..." self while doing the hat-tipping. That was jarring.

    Otherwise, on that scene? Given what we know of Zero, who has just gotten out of the Void, has interacted with only the scions and a couple servants, now on a completely different nation with people she knows were incredibly antagonistic toward us, she's trying to figure out why they'd be so buddy buddy now.

    And to someone whose one and only point in the forums is deriding the story for it being an anime story, it's normal to fail to understand that, anime tropes aside, Zero's coming to terms with doing things and being charitable simply for the sake of it. To simply be reciprocal and doing good things because you're a good person. Of not needing equivalent exchange for every simple action performed for someone else. And Garlemald at the moment is the best study case. That's what that scene is setting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    as to why the OP plays a game... I admit I am at a loss...
    Usually he claims he does it because he likes the game and wants to see it succeed.

    But when you consistently refuse any chance to change or improvement unless it fits what you yourself want, it shows that what you want isn't its success. It's to shove your own view of how the game should work down peoples' throats and not stray from it.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 01-16-2023 at 12:44 AM.

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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    I say at the end of Endwalker, the WoL and all the scions should sit around a table and eat some succulent burgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I say at the end of Endwalker, the WoL and all the scions should sit around a table and eat some succulent burgers.
    With agressive close-ups of their chewing and biting mouths and with Paradisaical Predicaments playing in the background.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    With agressive close-ups of their chewing and biting mouths and with Paradisaical Predicaments playing in the background.
    and focusing mainly on Graha and Yshtola enjoying their burgers...

    (please note I am not a huge fan of the puppy, nor do I loathe Yshtola, they are after all.. just characters in a story)
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    6.3 story does seem like the filler you would mark as "just skip it, doesn't carry over to anything /shrug".

    Both the MSQ and myths had me twitching the skip button so badly, lol.

    Although the story was awful, I loved each and every fight, EX5, the alliance raid fights and their music are stellar. But really, the writers really need to stop turning Golbez into the Jailer and Zero being some Sylvanas slash Venat but edgier.
    Rubicante was dealt a really bad hand IMO. He should have had far far more story time in the MSQ, and lead up to his fight, because the fight itself was actually pretty fun, and the theme was amazing too. Rubicante boy deserved much much better.
    At this point, I really wish there was a third or fourth option in dialogue to simply diss the scions, and their obnoxious/insufferable characters, speaking of which that new femroe in the Myth story, is literally auto skip now.

    I hope the writers for the new deep dungeon story aren't the ones behind the MSQ and Myth story, would feel a bit tragic to skip, if it goes full clownmode too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moebious View Post
    6.3 story does seem like the filler you would mark as "just skip it, doesn't carry over to anything /shrug".

    Both the MSQ and myths had me twitching the skip button so badly, lol.

    Although the story was awful, I loved each and every fight, EX5, the alliance raid fights and their music are stellar. But really, the writers really need to stop turning Golbez into the Jailer and Zero being some Sylvanas slash Venat but edgier.
    Rubicante was dealt a really bad hand IMO. He should have had far far more story time in the MSQ, and lead up to his fight, because the fight itself was actually pretty fun, and the theme was amazing too. Rubicante boy deserved much much better.
    At this point, I really wish there was a third or fourth option in dialogue to simply diss the scions, and their obnoxious/insufferable characters, speaking of which that new femroe in the Myth story, is literally auto skip now.

    I hope the writers for the new deep dungeon story aren't the ones behind the MSQ and Myth story, would feel a bit tragic to skip, if it goes full clownmode too.
    Unfortunately we know that the likes of G'raha Tia is involved in the Deep Dungeon story so I can only imagine that it'll be another questline that you couldn't pay me to endure firsthand. A pity Maehiro wasn't around long enough to permanently kill off more of Ishikawa's ocs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    Well I'll be honest OP that I have no idea what's going on anymore after 6.0. As a matter of fact, after the Zodiark thing, I dropped it.
    I'm just not gonna deal with this cringe writing bull anymore and them throwing things out of no where.
    Completely lost it when the Loli birb and her boyfriend was the ones all along! LOL.

    These writers are either new or some people they pulled from some fanfic websites and said go. The issue is the horrible pacing that is
    tremendously worse than SB. We literally saved the ENTIRE world in 1 patch and then we supposedly 'split up' but we don't. So I am yet again,
    stuck with the same bozo's for 2 expansion years or so and I want frigging cry.
    The only people I feel like deserve more time is probably the twins and Eisteninininin.

    Also, do not bother bringing the idiot catman with us. You guys turned him into a joke and I wish he crystalized instead of being this weird teehee :3 borgers cringe thing.
    Actually, you could had given us all a bone and let him be with Lyna so they could be a couple. Nope. You just had to go the weeb route with it and
    then you focus on all these random hot anime guys in white robes with mommy Venat lol.

    I will have a hard time believing the people who wrote HW is writing this dumpster fire.
    I hope they actually just do better in 7.0 but the bits I hear about 6.1- to .3 is just uninteresting and uninspired.
    Next time you wanna 'end' a series or story...how about doing it at the END of the expansion?
    Same. Only thing to note is that the blame for the current state of the story doesn't lie at Maehiro's feet or the rest of the Heavensward team. Even localization took a nosedive this expansion with examples like "the words of the crystal's original bearer" confusing mess with Koji gone as well. I'd much rather place the game back in the hands of theatre kids/nerds than fan fiction writers obsessed with their "unique" characters, that's for sure.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 01-16-2023 at 03:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Unfortunately we know that the likes of G'raha Tia is involved in the Deep Dungeon story so I can only imagine that it'll be another questline that you couldn't pay me to endure firsthand. A pity Maehiro wasn't around long enough to permanently kill off more of Ishikawa's ocs.



    Same. Only thing to note is that the blame for the current state of the story doesn't lie at Maehiro's feet or the rest of the Heavensward team. Even localization took a nosedive this expansion with examples like "the words of the crystal's original bearer" confusing mess with Koji gone as well. I'd much rather place the game back in the hands of theatre kids/nerds than fan fiction writers obsessed with their "unique" characters, that's for sure.
    Sadly this honestly feels like you conversing with alts of yourself XD like you only quote and ramble to people loosely following a similar mindset but even then they at least have comprehension for the most part. I will just keep enjoying these posts every patch and just see if they keep posting about record numbers etc in the future because the game is far from decline that's for sure. If it were such a problem they would of addressed it as it's their main cash cow they aren't entirely blind to problems...unless you include the CEOs hill to die on NFT stint but that's another topic for another time.
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Well I'll be honest OP that I have no idea what's going on anymore after 6.0. As a matter of fact, after the Zodiark thing, I dropped it.
    I'm just not gonna deal with this cringe writing bull anymore and them throwing things out of no where.
    Completely lost it when the Loli birb and her boyfriend was the ones all along! LOL.

    These writers are either new or some people they pulled from some fanfic websites and said go. The issue is the horrible pacing that is
    tremendously worse than SB. We literally saved the ENTIRE world in 1 patch and then we supposedly 'split up' but we don't. So I am yet again,
    stuck with the same bozo's for 2 expansion years or so and I want frigging cry.
    The only people I feel like deserve more time is probably the twins and Eisteninininin.

    Also, do not bother bringing the idiot catman with us. You guys turned him into a joke and I wish he crystalized instead of being this weird teehee :3 borgers cringe thing.
    Actually, you could had given us all a bone and let him be with Lyna so they could be a couple. Nope. You just had to go the weeb route with it and
    then you focus on all these random hot anime guys in white robes with mommy Venat lol.

    I will have a hard time believing the people who wrote HW is writing this dumpster fire.
    I hope they actually just do better in 7.0 but the bits I hear about 6.1- to .3 is just uninteresting and uninspired.
    Next time you wanna 'end' a series or story...how about doing it at the END of the expansion?
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-16-2023 at 03:40 AM. Reason: Typos and formatting.

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Just finished up with MSQ and Alliance stuff. Though I did the latter on patch day. I'm still digesting the MSQ, so I want to refrain from starting/joining any arguments on that regard and I have only read the OP.

    As far as the alliance raid goes, I was really hoping they would not link this to Venat and the ancients, and keep the twelve completely separate from that timeline. They went and did it though, and I feel it is lazy writing. I understand it would have taken a lot of effort to come up with a completely different storyline that is all their own, but that effort would have made it all the more worthwhile. The ancient's obsession with genocide definitely has me understand why Azem defected from both convocations, and I'm right there with them. It's like being part of a generation you're not proud of. Where this leaves me now if far less interested in the twelve than I previously was.

    My initial thoughts on the MSQ hasn't really waned from where it has been in a while, and the constant callbacks to previous FF games makes it really difficult for FFXIV to stand on its own two feet. I suppose I can see this for things like raids, and other content outside the MSQ. That was done really well with the Omega raids. But here we have the twelve, which is exclusive to FFXIV, and this is the raid, while the MSQ is siphoning off FFIV like there's no tomorrow. So much so, that those who know that game well can probably predict how this whole thing ends. That's not what you want as a writer.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 01-16-2023 at 07:11 AM.

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