Thread: Review of 6.3 Story Content

Originally Posted by Alleo

Here I am one of them who enjoyed EW and would not want to go back to a Heavensward styled expansion. (Not as if that expansion was the definition of dark anyway) I would not want to lose out the fluff and slice of life "nonsense" because that is something which makes the darker parts of a story hit harder. If everything is always just grim dark than the grim dark loses its meaning. Its the nice scenes, the scenes of friends sitting together, enjoying life that makes a tragedy more tragic.

Bascially you want a story that is far away even from real life. Because even in the darkest times, even in war...where its like the end of the world for the people being in the warzone, they find joy in it. That what makes us human. A teenager sitting at a piano playing songs while the people listening are dancing and clapping, always in danger that the next attack will hit them. A little girl sitting in a bunker singing a frozen song. This "nonsense" you speak about is a big part of our humanity. Taking it out of the story is the sign of a bad writer imo!

I want to add to that. Grim dark settings fundamentally do not work. They will always devolve into boring edgelording with shock value for the sake of having shock value (which actually erodes the effect of it). The only universe that manages to escape this is warhammer 40k and it only does so by going so ludicrously over the top that no sane person can take it seriously anymore.

Considering this is the man who took a joke and started policing what Summoners should have in terms of summons, I'm sorry to say that whatever screws Aveyond had have officially come loose.

Here lies Aveyond's legacy. May it be memeworthy.

Warlocks

in FF 14?

Oh and I want to see MORE on Venat's backstory, the hints about her and the Twelve are..fascinating.

I'm absolutely going to push back against people who want to summon the Twelve especially after what I learned about them from this raid.

Ive got to ask.

Is there anything in this game you DONT hate?

Originally Posted by VelKallor

Which, had our "esteemed" colleague up there paid attention to the MSQ and ingame narrative, he would have already known

Though he doesn't outright say it, Avenyond does seem like he's aware the Twelve aren't Primals. Hence why he's pushing back on the idea of them becoming summons for Summoner in the first place.

Although... there is a version of the Twelve that are Primals~ I completely forgot about them, but the Twelve Luwibaton summons in order to try and seal Bahamut could be turned into summons for Summoner. Though basically relegated to defensive magick, such as casting party wide defensive boosts or upgrading our Carbuncle shield to allow for a more robust personal shield ability.

Originally Posted by Hurlstone

Hmm... you know I really like that idea. A Job based on the Twelve, perhaps a healer/support DPS who uses Astro-like blessings to buff others and Summoner-like skills to smite their foes?



I do hope we get that in the future, I really do. But then I have seen people asking for that since the 2.x patches so... I dunno if we ever will. Hopefully the 6.0 rework means they will be able to more freely add the other Primals, even if its only cosmetic.

That would be neat! Our teacher could be the Twelve themselves and they each could teach us how to use a small portion of their power in order to protect the realm with their assistance without them not having to break their own rules and get personally involved. :3

Yeah, its a long shot. But then again, the devs have shocked us before. The new Summoner is a perfect example of that, so at least there's a small possibility they could pull that off at some point. Especially with, as you said, the 7.0 reworks possibly making jobs easier to better tinker around with without so much spaghetti code getting in the way. Though, I really hope the new summons later on will be more than a cosmetic update. That'd honestly would be disappointing.