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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    I work under the assumption that only Etheirys (and I guess the moon too) was sundered, but yeah, last time Square was asked this they said they aren't sure if it was just the planet or the whole universe either.

    I think we've had a soft confirmed answer in 6.0, though.
    Vrtra confirms both that his father arrived on Etheirys post-Sundering, and that he only saw one world - the Source.



    But on the wider point that I don't think Yoshi has ever directly addressed the above point out of game, yeah, I think SE's last statement was the ambiguity you suggested.
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    I just want to know when "Dedicated to Moonlight" will be available to download - what an absolute masterpiece of music!
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    My post may be downer territory. I don't know. I didn't expect a whole lot from this patch, but it still managed to fall short.


    MSQ


    The second they brought up needing a new traversal method, I realized it was going to be another, "Ride in on something big for the first few pulls" kind of dungeon. Which I don't have a problem with, it just made me also think, "Man, this is going to be a super chill dungeon." And it pretty much was. I wanted to go with friends, but nobody was waiting around / catching up, so just wound up going into it with Trusts. I'm still curious if the second boss has different dialogue if you kill her faster. I suppose I will find out sooner or later.

    Cagnazzo as a dungeon boss made sense. Him and Scarmiglione are the weakest of the fiends in the SNES version, and both pretty much neutered by the mages in your party in like one or two spells. He was so unthreatening though, with a completely different personality, that the idea of the twins taking an injury/death didn't even come to mind until I read some of the posts here.

    I felt like the combination of Rubicante and Mt. Ordeals was a bit ham fisted. Mt. Ordeals has nothing to do with the Four Fiends save for being where you fight and kill Scarmigilione in IV just before Cecil redeems his father's light and becomes a PLD. It did make for cool scenery though, and I'm glad they used the big ole Giantsgall Pride Rock.

    My brain did perk up for Golbez being on the moon, and also being able to further restraint Azdaja when she gets unruly without even having to swish his hand really (like he closed his fist right). I actually kind of want Golbez to succeed and die, if only to bring succor to the 13th by essentially Rejoining it to the Source. Maybe even usher in the next phase of FFXIV by crashing the 13th's red moon into the Source. The 7th Calamity 2: Frenetic Boogaloo.

    As far as the protagonist cast, ehh. Every performance was lacking in my opinion. I liked Zero's roleplay sequence, and her subsequent memory, as well as the nod to her liking spicy food. Jullus was sort of hamfisted in a good way. But every Scion and the WoL facial expressions on display made me put eye covering on until I did the 24 man stuff. I'm not really enjoying how they're handling Zero. Maybe I just don't like her type of character, but it feels like a switch flipped even before she nearly died. Idk. Her growth doesn't feel natural.

    I have an inescapable feeling that this shortened, expect nothing because we're starting fresh 6.3 was just sort of an excuse to roll the same length trial story we usually get as the MSQ. I.E. Less content all around. I hope it doesn't become a new precedent. Ooof.


    24-man / The Twelve


    Ehh, I feel like the whole Oschon conclusion people are jumping to is the obvious red herring still. So I was wrong that Deryk = Althyk, but that was almost baseless supposition anyway. But now that they've mentioned this 13th Horse With No Name, and Krile's like, "Booyakashaw, it's the Watcher!" I feel like that's a red herring, too. I think the Horse With No Name is Deryk. Alternatively, he's literally just what he says he is, a traveler, and nothing more. Sometimes a spade's just a spade.

    I enjoyed most of the fights. They were a lot easier to read than the prior 24 man, which probably still gives me trouble as I only did it a few times. Had a few deaths during Althyk... once to not seeing the clock time tether to one of the knockbacks, but the other times to the water push back mech. But my party had me on RDM and a SMN, so we kept everyone up and learned it all well enough to not wipe.
    Nophica's fight was very relaxing.
    Halone's fight was very lulzy for her supposedly being a war goddess.
    Menphina's gave my eyes some strain, and I did die a few times. But my biggest grievance is that her design is borderline loli, so I don't like it much.

    My patron deity is Althyk, and it was kind of funny that he's in the 24 man more or less with all the ladies. Feels like it really undercuts the powers of space/time manipulation, but oh well.

    I chuckled pretty hard at Snoegeim reacting pretty much how I reacted to seeing Nophica.


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    It was funny. I love spending time with the FFXI references that the auspices are. Kinda wish the reward for it was the Tenzen armor for glam, as I don't much care for what we got, but hey, it was nice. Really laughed when Suzaku(Thirsty Bird) let her thirstiness get the better of her. She was all like, "Hey I don't remember getting pregnant by Tenzen, but I am down to hear that fan fiction!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    6.3 MSQ

    The only thing I'm particularly keen on learning is why Golbez's scheme is only happening now because it has potentially deeper implications for the future if tearing down the boundary between a shard and source is somehow possible now when it wasn't previously.
    Likely the same reason we were able to be summoned to the First way back in ShB that the Exarch tells us after getting acquainted with the First:

    Their arrival, however, was not as recent as you may imagine. Here, time flows at a different pace from that of the Source.

    In the space of a single hour in your home world, an entire year might pass in the First─and the reverse could also be true. The pace fluctuates without rhyme or reason, and it cannot be predicted.

    That said, we seem to be entering a period of near-equivalence, and thus, for the moment, you need not overly concern yourself with the passage of time.
    Emphasis mine on the important bits. If they've tried before and failed or have had enough time to observe how it works, they may have needed to wait until the period of near-equivalence. Whether that's been real slow because of the fluctuations or whatever, that's probably why it's a "now" thing and not long before. Who's to say Golbez hasn't tried before and failed, and now has the means to do what he wants? That's my guess, anyway.
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    I feel like we're the reason Golbez is suddenly moving forward with his plan. I mean, we've spent two patches dealing with the Void now, and from what we've seen we are the only major new/altered factor there. Either that or us offing Zodiark on our end caused some ripple effects, but that's just blaming us again but with extra steps.
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    Hmmm

    MSQ only so far:
    eh wasn't really as much punch as we normally get from a .3 patch then again they are following a different formula right now. It was ok in some ways not not so much in others.

    I will say that Alisaie felt completely out of character as if they were trying to make her too cutesy at times. It honestly didn't sit well with me. As for the other NPCS meh. Zero was on and at points I kinda sped through the voice acting bits since they were getting kinda boring to me. (Half the time while they're still talking I've read what they were saying at least twice)

    A note on the Alisaie thing, I guess it just the fact that Zero as Zenos' avatar literally tried to kill both her and Graha and all Alisaie does is a completely out of character "cute" thinking pose and doesn't bring shit up about it and let's slide the whole thing with Zero saying her working with Zenos under pact made her "angry" was pretty stupid imo .

    The voice for Rubicante and Cagnazzo were kinda let downs as well I guess I was expecting stuff a bit deeper and for cagnazzo sound more... watery (maybe the term I'm looking for).

    The Rubicante fight wasnt that bad I guess.

    Golbez hmmm I need to process all of that some more. I really doubt he's a part of Zodiark. As someone mentioned before in the Lore Q&A that happened after Endwalker, all parts disappeared after we destroyed him on the sources moon. Also we still need to find out exactly what went on with him and the watcher (im thinking that that one was that stars watcher possibly.)


    Did the Tataru stuff that wasn't too bad but still need to do myths .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    I feel like we're the reason Golbez is suddenly moving forward with his plan. I mean, we've spent two patches dealing with the Void now, and from what we've seen we are the only major new/altered factor there. Either that or us offing Zodiark on our end caused some ripple effects, but that's just blaming us again but with extra steps.
    I thought that was practically a given, due to the fact that when we first see Golbez and the arch fiends they're literally talking about us and how we were in the void and that we has also destroyed the Cloud of Darkness... I mean I figured that brought the stakes up enough for them. *shrugs*
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    Last edited by Rannie; 01-11-2023 at 09:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mieck View Post
    I think we've had a soft confirmed answer in 6.0, though.
    Vrtra confirms both that his father arrived on Etheirys post-Sundering, and that he only saw one world - the Source.



    But on the wider point that I don't think Yoshi has ever directly addressed the above point out of game, yeah, I think SE's last statement was the ambiguity you suggested.
    That's what I was thinking too, but that's what's so weird - If a resident from the First and a resident from the Source both went to the dragon star, would they be able to see each other? Could this be a way to cross worlds somehow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Hmmm

    MSQ only so far:
    eh wasn't really as much punch as we normally get from a .3 patch then again they are following a different formula right now. It was ok in some ways not not so much in others.

    I will say that Alisaie felt completely out of character as if they were trying to make her too cutesy at times. It honestly didn't sit well with me. As for the other NPCS meh. Zero was on and at points I kinda sped through the voice acting bits since they were getting kinda boring to me. (Half the time while they're still talking I've read what they were saying at least twice)

    A note on the Alisaie thing, I guess it just the fact that Zero as Zenos' avatar literally tried to kill both her and Graha and all Alisaie does is a completely out of character "cute" thinking pose and doesn't bring shit up about it and let's slide the whole thing with Zero saying her working with Zenos under pact made her "angry" was pretty stupid imo .

    The voice for Rubicante and Cagnazzo were kinda let downs as well I guess I was expecting stuff a bit deeper and for cagnazzo sound more... watery (maybe the term I'm looking for).

    The Rubicante fight wasnt that bad I guess.

    Golbez hmmm I need to process all of that some more. I really doubt he's a part of Zodiark. As someone mentioned before in the Lore Q&A that happened after Endwalker, all parts disappeared after we destroyed him on the sources moon. Also we still need to find out exactly what went on with him and the watcher (im thinking that that one was that stars watcher possibly.)


    Did the Tataru stuff that wasn't too bad but still need to do myths .
    Alisaie is threatened by the WoL having another waifu in the party. She feels like she needs to up her game to keep her spot in the pecking order.
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    I think the idea of The Watcher being a 13th god is actually pretty cool. It makes sense that he might be. One left in the realm of man to watch, and monitor things while being unseen? Seems about right for a space god.

    Althyk being the unseen one also makes sense, especially with the "just a traveler" that disappears vibe, but I think if that were the case it might be a bit boring.
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