Thread: Full Notes Patch 6.3

Originally Posted by Deveryn

People heard PLD was changing and immediately looked to what happened to summoner. Y'all are sad. It didn't even lose all the DoTs. Circle of Scorn is still the same.
Divine Veil finally got its overdue update and more healing got woven in. Overall, there were great changes to that and other jobs.

I don't think you play Paladin if you don't know how much these changes do to our rotation, it's not summoner levels of rework but It's pretty massive a lot more then any recent change other then SMN. It's not "small adjustments"

EDIT: just adding circle of scorn is nothing like how goring blade or valor worked, they were strict and always apart of our rotation, Scorn you press on cooldown lol.

Originally Posted by Rithy255

I don't think you play Paladin if you don't know how much these changes do to our rotation, it's not summoner levels of rework but It's pretty massive a lot more then any recent change other then SMN. It's not "small adjustments"

EDIT: just adding circle of scorn is nothing like how goring blade or valor worked, they were strict and always apart of our rotation, Scorn you press on cooldown lol.

Yeah when they told PLDs they were going to change your whole rotation that's normally not a minor thing. It could be a snapshot of what they have in mind for 7.0 stuff even though that's still pretty far off. Yet we know both DRG and Ast changes or at least big ones are being held off until 7.0. One would assume that meant they're already thinking about how they want some jobs to function or feel that far down the line. I still think Intervene should be learned at an earlier level 72 is way to high.

Originally Posted by Rithy255

I don't think you play Paladin if you don't know how much these changes do to our rotation, it's not summoner levels of rework but It's pretty massive a lot more then any recent change other then SMN. It's not "small adjustments"

EDIT: just adding circle of scorn is nothing like how goring blade or valor worked, they were strict and always apart of our rotation, Scorn you press on cooldown lol.

I do play and I've been excited for these changes since they were announced. I know it's not a small change. I'm just commenting on the levels of paranoia that exist about these things. People thought the job would be "gutted" in the same way SMN supposedly was.

Originally Posted by Deveryn

I do play and I've been excited for these changes since they were announced. I know it's not a small change. I'm just commenting on the levels of paranoia that exist about these things. People thought the job would be "gutted" in the same way SMN supposedly was.

I'm somewhat excited but a bit disappointed with how they went about reworking goring blade into another "press every 1 minute button" Having magic outside burst is a huge W In my opinion, allows PLD to flow more and feel less strict, you can save your holy spirit (outside of raid buff), for 1. need a small sustain, 2. go into ranged Pld might actually feel so good at higher levels.

A big issue is PLD is going to feel even worse before they get magic, it's going to be 1, 2, 3 still in ARR, hw You don't even have dot management, they really need to look at how PLD plays early game because it feels really boring and will put off people levelling the job, In general PLD still needs a bit more polish in my opinion it's got a bunch of bloat (cover & shield bash), it's got still a clunky raid wide in Passage, also I really dislike intervention I'm hoping the rework it so you don't have to actively be mitigating rampart/sentinel to get "bonus" effects aka the same effect as your normal CD.

PLD likely going to be in a really good spot for Level 90 content, it's going to be actually be a good MT option with how PLD's get generally more uses out of holy Shelltron but now doesn't lack a personal, I think warrior might still need a Damage buff, we're unsure about if PLD gonna have big numbers or not right now.

Originally Posted by Rithy255

I'm somewhat excited but a bit disappointed with how they went about reworking goring blade into another "press every 1 minute button" Having magic outside burst is a huge W In my opinion, allows PLD to flow more and feel less strict, you can save your holy spirit (outside of raid buff), for 1. need a small sustain, 2. go into ranged Pld might actually feel so good at higher levels.

A big issue is PLD is going to feel even worse before they get magic, it's going to be 1, 2, 3 still in ARR, hw You don't even have dot management, they really need to look at how PLD plays early game because it feels really boring and will put off people levelling the job, In general PLD still needs a bit more polish in my opinion it's got a bunch of bloat (cover & shield bash), it's got still a clunky raid wide in Passage, also I really dislike intervention I'm hoping the rework it so you don't have to actively be mitigating rampart/sentinel to get "bonus" effects aka the same effect as your normal CD.

PLD likely going to be in a really good spot for Level 90 content, it's going to be actually be a good MT option with how PLD's get generally more uses out of holy Shelltron but now doesn't lack a personal, I think warrior might still need a Damage buff, we're unsure about if PLD gonna have big numbers or not right now.

I agree with most of this, but I feel like DoT management shouldn't be a thing for ANY tank. It wasn't even much in the way of management. I say this having played jobs in other games that actually juggled DoTs for their DPS. I know DoTs meant more back when aggro was different, but those days are behind us and it's time to move away from that.

Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

Does paladin now have more skills than will fit on 3 bars (including role actions) ?

It only gained one button with bulwark. The tank stance is an interchanging action.