Thread: Full Notes Patch 6.3

I knew they would nerf nin to the point monk and drg would become the only melees worth playing in pvp, again.

Originally Posted by Knot_D

I don't know why they nerf MNK's Riddle of Earth into 2 mins cooldown that only gives 10s damage reduction and self regen?

Old 3 stacks RoE was way better than this...

Now we need to dig up those topics about what melee dps has the best survivability.

Originally Posted by Knot_D

But it's 2 minutes mitigation... Why though? The regen is also "self" regen compared with RPR's Arcane Crest that's available every 30 seconds but AoE.

I might don't mind if it's 1 minute but... 2 minutes for 10 seconds damage reduction are too long to just use, for example, on Barbie EX

I am unfamiliar with RPR, but also not really aiming to compare one melee to the next in terms of their self-sustain. I think it's probably important to ask if RPR needs 10% mitigation every 30s, especially considering that they should almost never be at the top of the aggro list. I should backtrack a bit and not say RoE makes MNK more sustainable, but rather it gives their self-sustain more efficacy.

I will point out again that MNK do have RoW and Bloodbath, which have the same 90s recast, and really should be used together. It is a really potent Regen, especially when combined with their passive GL3 trait. 20% mitigation for 10s is a massive amount of damage reduction, and should be coordinated for when incoming damage is highest. Then you also add a total of 1500 pot to restore a lot of health that is lost. I think 120s is fine for the majority of bosses in the game. The game would need far more hard hitting bosses to warrant anything less than 2min, honestly.

Originally Posted by Gemina

Old RoE is a penalizing ability, which many players - myself included grow sick of. The old RoF would reduce the amount mitigated once you start using weaponskills, which is absolutely horrendous, especially in fights where damage is coming out consistently like Barb EX. You really did not need the three stacks, especially when taking this penalty into account..

RoE's mit effect did not add per stack, that was only present in the ShB iteration of the skill. Pre 6.3 RoE was a flat mit for 3 GCDs, the effect itself did not degrade per stack lost.

Originally Posted by Gemina

I will point out again that MNK do have RoW and Bloodbath, which have the same 90s recast, and really should be used together. It is a really potent Regen, especially when combined with their passive GL3 trait. 20% mitigation for 10s is a massive amount of damage reduction, and should be coordinated for when incoming damage is highest. Then you also add a total of 1500 pot to restore a lot of health that is lost. I think 120s is fine for the majority of bosses in the game. The game would need far more hard hitting bosses to warrant anything less than 2min, honestly.

Compared to previous iterations of RoE this change is quite bad, actually. Completely ignoring the fact that MNK doesn't even need the heal- the regen only amounts to 500 potency which would make it equal to Second Wind, however HoTs cannot crit. So that just leaves the mitigation, which is a net nerf considering that not that many mechanics actually deal frequent damage within a 10s timeframe and when there are that do, old RoE was able to handle it just fine with its charges and shorter cooldown.

Additionally, giving MNK a "better" personal mit is hardly the most pressing issue on the job. Compared to other problems that could be done with a hotfix, opting to change RoE again for the third time in the past 3 years just feels unnecessary.