PLD changes

[Rithy255]

Square Enix reworked Paladin, but it is weaker than before.
I have never seen such a terrible adjustment in the past.
I have never seen a job reworked and made weaker than before.

How exactly is it "weaker than before"? The entire rework was to fit it better under raid wides, They've gained new defensive capability. Theirs actual meaningful upsides to picking PLD a tank that has been really mediocre defensively and had pretty bad damage.

I'm not maths expert but even if PLD's currently falling behind by a bit they will likely increase it's damage to be on par with the other tanks.

[Gserpent]

How exactly is it "weaker than before"? The entire rework was to fit it better under raid wides, They've gained new defensive capability. Theirs actual meaningful upsides to picking PLD a tank that has been really mediocre defensively and had pretty bad damage.

I'm not maths expert but even if PLD's currently falling behind by a bit they will likely increase it's damage to be on par with the other tanks.

PLD's performance below 90 is significantly worse, which is frankly unforgivable given that this was supposed to be an "emergency rework" and not just moving potency around. And the overwhelming majority of PvE content is below level 90.

[Rithy255]

PLD's performance below 90 is significantly worse, which is frankly unforgivable given that this was supposed to be an "emergency rework" and not just moving potency around. And the overwhelming majority of PvE content is below level 90.

I totally agree that the state of PLD in anything ARR/HW is pretty much a meme, It feels awful to play for sure in that sort of content, They needed to look at PLD at lower levels but it felt ignored. I also think that some parts of the rework really just missed the mark... Goring blade and Fight or flight feel currently really bad, Divine might change was good, Req was good also both shortened down the magic spam but also still let PLD to feel magic and more in control of sustain, I'm generally in the middle about this rework

I was talking about 90 here though, to be clear with you, it's still the most important stuff to balance around, but they do need to rework older content Jobs like BLM, PLD and Healers in general to name a few feel just really underwhelming to play in old content.