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    Nikoto's Avatar
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerfairy View Post
    Guess they should've kept SGE LB to only one color too since you can just look at the party list?
    This isn't a matter of gameplay or countering, this is an accessibility issue. DRG LB marker is obvious by itself but when you have a job on your team like AST with a bunch of blue explosions going out, it gets harder to see it. And also what Sinstrel said with ally DRG LB, it can be a little frustrating when your own teammate forces you to look away from the fight to see which DRG just ulted.
    You can go into character settings and set PvP effects to limited.

    What all of you are suggesting will completely kill the usefulness of the LB unless it's used in conjunction with another LB, such as WAR or DNC, which happens only one in a million times because you're playing with randoms and when it does happen is completely by accident.

    Go complain about any actually problematic LB.
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    Agnes Nimue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    You can go into character settings and set PvP effects to limited.

    What all of you are suggesting will completely kill the usefulness of the LB unless it's used in conjunction with another LB, such as WAR or DNC, which happens only one in a million times because you're playing with randoms and when it does happen is completely by accident.

    Go complain about any actually problematic LB.
    So if you can easily identify DRG LB by turning off visual effects and looking at the party list, what usefulness are you talking about? Being a noobtrap ult?

    I think regardless of the color change, it's still a very strong ult for contesting the payload. It forces you to either use Guard (if you even have it up) or run away or else you die. It's an ult made for teamfights, so of course it's most optimal use is through the use of other teamfight ults, but it's still very useful for getting others off your spot and super strong in overtime.

    I'm not saying DRG has the most problematic LB. I think MNK and MCH's LB are the dumbest designs and I want them to be reworked. But anyone can still talk about anything they have an issue with, regardless of severity
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerfairy View Post
    I think MNK and MCH's LB are the dumbest designs and I want them to be reworked.
    What about Seiton,, no problem with? MNK is problematic as well, but MCH actually requires setup to pull off, and at very high level, the correct targets as well, because otherwise people will survive it and it will be wasted. MNK doesn't care about any of that, and will stun lock the target for ages on top of charging faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    You can go into character settings and set PvP effects to limited.

    What all of you are suggesting will completely kill the usefulness of the LB unless it's used in conjunction with another LB, such as WAR or DNC, which happens only one in a million times because you're playing with randoms and when it does happen is completely by accident.

    Go complain about any actually problematic LB.
    my question is why can sage have a colored aoe and not drg? this double standard is annoying.
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    So riddle me this, what exactly is so gamebreaking for DRG's viability if enemy DRGs have a barely visible pink translucent marker instead of a barely visible blue one? If your argument is focused on keeping their LB ring hard to see, then color shouldn't make all that much of a difference. If someone wouldn't notice a blue marker on top of them, odds are they wouldn't notice a pink one either. If AST's LB and MCH's turret have different color indicators for friendly or not and SMN has a visual cue to indicate as such, I don't see the problem in asking for a different color of equal obscurity to the original. If you have a problem with that, what you're really after is leaving DRG's LB ambiguous just for either CC matches where both teams have a DRG or in the fustercluck that is Frontlines where the argument for changing the color is is a bit more warranted, but their adjustments for job abilities never get made solely for Frontlines.

    Anywho, do I think the PvP person team is going to adjust it? Probably not? Not unless they decided one day to go on a LB-adjusting spree in some odd patch. I believe DRK and NIN's ground AoEs are of the same issue where there's no indication of whether or not it's from your teammate, you just have to know, of course those 2 are hardly as game-changing as a LB. I don't agree with making the marker any more visible, but the argument to having a different color is valid.
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