enemy dragoon LB needs to be more clear

[Ransu]

Because it is a skill issue. You're not asking for accessibility, you're asking to basically make the LB pointless to use.

The LB is not instant. There is a delay animation between jumping and when you can activate it. I'm sorry that you have impairments, but you don't make changes that impact balance around those issues. I'm half deaf, should I demand the game stop using audio cues? Absolutely not lol.

[anna-steele]

now we have resorted to lying and gaslighting, amongst other wrongful comparisons. it is quite clear if there was to be no indicator, there would not be one. but there is, so it should be visible and discernable from allied indicators. its a simple request, (again, not a debate or discussion) one that devolved into crushing fragile egos of certain users, and said users flinging insults right out of the gate.

time to move on from the troll.

[Xylira]

I'm not getting how asking for enemy Dragoon AOE effect to have a separate indicator to differentiate between friend and foe is in any way a skill issue by giving players clear visual prompts to watch for. You still have to watch for the visual effect and react to it, which is skill. Plenty of other AOE markers distinctly denote when they're hostile, which is completely reasonable.

If anything, I'd argue that dragoons whinging that their AOE markers need to stay obfuscated is a skill issue on their part. Learn how to work with your team to land your LB effectively.

[flowerfairy]

Because it is a skill issue. You're not asking for accessibility, you're asking to basically make the LB pointless to use.

You already listed a use for it yourself... contesting the payload. I don't know a single relevant competitive PvP game that encourages hiding game-changing AoE nukes through VFX of a teamfight as a "strategy", which said VFX varies depends on which jobs are in the game, and you can turn off at any time. The closest I can think of is Neeko from LoL, whose whole identity is disguising and mindgames, and even her ult plays an audio cue regardless if she's disguised or not.

You already said you're fine with the ally DRG LB color changing so I don't understand your obsession with the color red... The marker itself is wispy and translucent, it'll probably be harder to see in the volcano map which is made for melee jobs. High-end players have no issue seeing DRG LB in a fight so I have to question if you're able to pull off that "strategy" frequently in high end matches...

[Ransu]

now we have resorted to lying and gaslighting, amongst other wrongful comparisons. it is quite clear if there was to be no indicator, there would not be one. but there is, so it should be visible and discernable from allied indicators. its a simple request, (again, not a debate or discussion) one that devolved into crushing fragile egos of certain users, and said users flinging insults right out of the gate.

time to move on from the troll.

Or maybe you should consider the fact they made it that color on purpose? Almost like they understood the nature of the LB and making it too easy for the enemy to see would hurt the use of the ability. Sometimes you should consider critical thinking.

I'm not getting how asking for enemy Dragoon AOE effect to have a separate indicator to differentiate between friend and foe is in any way a skill issue by giving players clear visual prompts to watch for. You still have to watch for the visual effect and react to it, which is skill. Plenty of other AOE markers distinctly denote when they're hostile, which is completely reasonable.

If anything, I'd argue that dragoons whinging that their AOE markers need to stay obfuscated is a skill issue on their part. Learn how to work with your team to land your LB effectively.

I don't have a problem with that. OP is wanting the opponent teams circle to be red and easy to see, which it should not be.

[Mistress_Irika]

It's a quality of life change that is being asked for. I don't see what the problem is. If someone is taking a beating I'm pretty sure that they're going to worry more about living than a limit break coming from a dragoon. Just saying.

Personally, if some of the dragoon mains are worried about not being able to offensively use their limit break I don't mind making sure to keep myself alive to make myself useful for when you do limit break. If you're worried about people mitigating the damage from your limit break I don't mind immediately diving in after your limit break and dropping a 46k bomb all the way around to try and protect you. I don't mind. I heavily rely on dragoons. I kinda get it though. Range is not crazy to dive in when it comes to frontlines. As for cc it's solo q. Who syncs things? Still, it's a QOL change. If you were facing another dragoon on the team aren't you worried about your teammates guarding instead of doing damage when you limit break?

I'm not a dragoon main. However, I'm pretty certain that there's a 1 second cast delay before they can end the limit break early despite both abilities being instant.

[Towa-Musa]

Hello Towa, I haven't seen you in forever!

I think the big difference between the two, in my opinion, is their use. Sage is not an offensive ambushing LB, and I think that fact alone is enough to have different standards.

Though if we had to make them both the same, I'd make them both blue instead.

i mean i would agree if it was not for the fact that stepping into the sage aoe lb would just be... confusing at that point then you would have even more people complaining about that <.<;

[anna-steele]

It's a quality of life change that is being asked for. I don't see what the problem is. If someone is taking a beating I'm pretty sure that they're going to worry more about living than a limit break coming from a dragoon. Just saying.

Personally, if some of the dragoon mains are worried about not being able to offensively use their limit break I don't mind making sure to keep myself alive to make myself useful for when you do limit break. If you're worried about people mitigating the damage from your limit break I don't mind immediately diving in after your limit break and dropping a 46k bomb all the way around to try and protect you. I don't mind. I heavily rely on dragoons. I kinda get it though. Range is not crazy to dive in when it comes to frontlines. As for cc it's solo q. Who syncs things? Still, it's a QOL change. If you were facing another dragoon on the team aren't you worried about your teammates guarding instead of doing damage when you limit break?

I'm not a dragoon main. However, I'm pretty certain that there's a 1 second cast delay before they can end the limit break early despite both abilities being instant.

its just a bunch of indignant trolls clutching their pearls as if the ask is to remove the class altogether. they are personally offended and then went on the attack with their whole "git gud" nonsensical argument, then play victim when they are handed it back with both barrels. the usual ordeal with MMO pvpers, the most easily offended and hostile of all the gaming demographics. as i said before, too many unsupervised children use the boards. either way the thread has been made with the ask and a dev will either see it or not. nothing to discuss anyways. off to do other things

[Kathleen_]

LOL DRG players are pathetic.

[Ransu]

its just a bunch of indignant trolls clutching their pearls as if the ask is to remove the class altogether. they are personally offended and then went on the attack with their whole "git gud" nonsensical argument, then play victim when they are handed it back with both barrels. the usual ordeal with MMO pvpers, the most easily offended and hostile of all the gaming demographics. as i said before, too many unsupervised children use the boards. either way the thread has been made with the ask and a dev will either see it or not. nothing to discuss anyways. off to do other things

You have literally been the most toxic one here lol.