More Healing (specific) Classes

[RedAffinity]

I had this idea or concept for Time Mage

At level 3 it learns the spell "Rewind" and the description reads:
"Rewinds the damage done to an ally". In other words, cure!

Aside from the other amazing crowd control abilities and debuffs, Time Mage would be a secondary healer class. Perhaps not as capable as White Mage, but similar to RDM's curing levels.

[TokyieRage]

Well at any rate, Im sure the first thing they will do is add rdm. I was kinda hoping it would be more of a melee class, but jobs never turn out how we hoped. After all, Ninja was never suppose to be a tank, and DNC was suppose to be a healer not a solo job, lol.

[AmyNeudaiz]

I think I see where you are going. You are saying that WHM should work something like this. Since WHM is seen as a healer then their ability to inflict dmg should be greatly reduced to amplify the fact that they are a healer first and a DD 4th.

In 2.0 they may be able to be more flexible with ability but from what I see you want something like

Conjurer:
Stone-Stonera
Aero-Aerora

WHM: Earth/Wind potency is lowered but Holy potency is unaffected
Cure-Regen "Increases duration of regen"
Cure-Esuna "Cures based on amount of enfeebles removed"
Cura-Regen "Increases potency of Regen"
Cura-Holy "Converts to single target with change to lower mag defense"
Curaja-Esuna "Grants a temporary stat resist enhancement"
Curaja-Holy "Consumes half of current MP to inflict AOE dmg"

Stone/Stonera/Aero/Aerora=Unable to combo but the accuracy of inflicting said enfeebles will increase

So I'm thinking you want to see something like this which pushes the idea that WHM is a healer, while I have no idea how the above combos would work the idea is to focus on WHM as a healer and limit their offensive abilities but in place of that those "offensive" abilities now become primary enfeebles with their increased chances of being able to inflict the enfeeble on a target.

It is possible with the current engine they are unable to be as flexible as they'd like to be with combos so perhaps come around 2.0 they will be able to have it where a WHM can have it's own unique combos apart from CON to further the idea that a WHM is a primary healer with a weak offensive capability.

Well I only gave some examples to get what I had in mind across, what they actually add for combos, which I seriously think Whm needs, is up to the devs and the QA team. But yeah, that's pretty much what I was saying.
Also, you can get around the potential of an unintentional Holy-nerf by reducing magic potency on the character and increasing the power of the actual Holy spell so it remains unaffected.
I just wish it would be a little faster and more fluid than it is now and didn't suffer the tiny area of effect for buffs and AoE heals. And where is my Curaja?

[Zantetsuken]

Just wait for SMN to be introduced. There's your second healing job.

/evilgrin

You are a cruel, cruel man...

[Urthdigger]

FFXIV actually doesn't need a second healer class. At least, not right now.

The question is "What would this new job do that WHM cannot?", and there isn't really a lot that they can do. WHM already gets two tiers of cures, an area of effect cure, and a heal over time. A lot of the responses people are giving are things like "Make a hybrid class that heals, like RDM or SCH from FFXI." Thing is though, we already have those.

How would a RDM differ from a paladin with cure set in any way? How is Scholar any different than a thaumaturge with cure set? Being a healer is mostly about that one ability. True, a marauder using cure isn't going to be as effective as a white mage, but anyone who thinks that a hybrid should heal as well as the best healer needs to have their head examined.

[AmyNeudaiz]

FFXIV actually doesn't need a second healer class. At least, not right now.

The question is "What would this new job do that WHM cannot?", and there isn't really a lot that they can do. WHM already gets two tiers of cures, an area of effect cure, and a heal over time. A lot of the responses people are giving are things like "Make a hybrid class that heals, like RDM or SCH from FFXI." Thing is though, we already have those.

Uhh, decent dps for one? Whm can't do decent dps and no, we don't have a real job that has a decent ability to heal and maintain dps, if you say Brd I may resort to violence. Brd -can not- heal well whatsoever, I'm sorry but 300 per cure is a joke.

How would a RDM differ from a paladin with cure set in any way? How is Scholar any different than a thaumaturge with cure set? Being a healer is mostly about that one ability. True, a marauder using cure isn't going to be as effective as a white mage, but anyone who thinks that a hybrid should heal as well as the best healer needs to have their head examined.

Again, dps. Pld can't dps and Pld also can't really heal well seeing as it has such a small MP pool and it's main source of getting MP back is by tanking which it can't do if it's pretending to be a Rdm.

[Urthdigger]

I'm sorry but 300 per cure is a joke.

And therein lies the heart of the matter. So long as WHM heals for better than whatever healer comes out, people are going to want the WHM over it. If it heals better than WHM, then it invalidates WHM.

Another thing to keep in mind with the frequent hybrid idea is that you'll most likely wind up with something that deals damage like a PLD and heals like a BRD. Or, at the very least, people will assume it does.

[Klefth]

Just wait for SMN to be introduced. There's your second healing job.

/evilgrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

Do you have any idea how frustrating that was!?

[Zumi]

I second this. DNC was indeed a real fun and underplayed / appreciated class. Light DPS but mid/high party buffs and mid/high healing. Very ok with this idea.

Dancer was in no way underplayed you will see so many people soloing dynamis with dnc/thf go check right now.

[AmyNeudaiz]

And therein lies the heart of the matter. So long as WHM heals for better than whatever healer comes out, people are going to want the WHM over it. If it heals better than WHM, then it invalidates WHM.

Another thing to keep in mind with the frequent hybrid idea is that you'll most likely wind up with something that deals damage like a PLD and heals like a BRD. Or, at the very least, people will assume it does.

A cure for 1000 like Pld would more be what a DPS/Healer should have. You really don't get what the people who want hybrids want I guess, not a replacement for Whm but a DPS that is able to assist the party. Typically this means a lower mana pool, refresh capability of MP reduced (weapon out = almost no refresh) all while putting up with dealing damage and being smart enough to not take hate with their version of cures. Brd can not do this, it is completely ineffective with cures and its dps is laughable to other jobs. Trust me, I played a lot of Brd before I got tired of doing crap damage and not being able to cure effectively.