Wait a sec... Let me get this straight...

[Aceofspades]

Why are plds always such crybabies when there's another tank alternative? When every there's another tank you can be sure Paladins will be crying for them to be nerfed. Even in FF11. "Oh Noes ppl r inviting Ninjas! It take more than 5 mins to get a prty invite now.

your original statement, only thing that resembles a question was the first part , wich is obviously retorical, you made a statement in wich you didnt know what you were talking about.

They really threw the balance off with the update, I tank as both pld and war in av/cc. Pld is just more practical for bad players now in place of "old war" while "new war" takes some real attention/work/tp conserving for bosses to hold aggro off of serious dps on miser/chim/garuda without using collusions and your own dmg/enmity moves correctly. I think they should have left the uptime on rampage alone and made steel cyclone more effective the less mobs you have so war's single target tanking didn't make it completely obvious that this game hates war tanks.

In general, buffing pld up and some minor nerfs to war might have balanced things out correctly but now it's a real pain. I use pld for chim now to give whms a break and blms more nuking room.

This is where it all orginated, and it was this persons opinion that sparked.....

Because we want SE to make Warrior deal insane damage and tank well with very little effort... Great idea bro. Paladin also got a bit of a buff with the changes, it's just that Warrior is still an easy class to tank as, it is sickening. I feel things are just about right, with the exception of the miss rate melee classes have to deal with.

Let's just put the warrior job in it's place as a trash mob/secondary tank and we'll have more variety in dungeon runs. I might sound a bit harsh.. but it's only because I'm very sensitive about this subject.

this response, now up till this point everyone had an idea of what they were saying , untill you posted. Everyone is entitiled to their opinion but yours was completely biased and un based on anything you knew.

I do know what I'm talking about. I'm only talking about post people make online. Not the job itself. It's not that deep. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

wich makes this post complete bull, you should be a politian, or , on second thought we have enough of em with your mindset.

[Searious]

your original statement, only thing that resembles a question was the first part , wich is obviously retorical, you made a statement in wich you didnt know what you were talking about.



This is where it all orginated, and it was this persons opinion that sparked.....



this response, now up till this point everyone had an idea of what they were saying , untill you posted. Everyone is entitiled to their opinion but yours was completely biased and un based on anything you knew.



wich makes this post complete bull, you should be a politian, or , on second thought we have enough of em with your mindset.

lol! How are you going to tell my my own question was rhetorical? You're doing too much man. My post was based on observation. I've seen paladins in FFXI and FFXIV (mostly ffxi) bitching over the years and I commented about it. How much expertise does it take to see someone complaining on a forum and realize they're complaining? That really requires leveling a job to 50?

So what you're telling me is over all these years no Paladin has ever complained about another tanking job? That's what you're telling me?

[buritoslicer]

lol! How are you going to tell my my own question was rhetorical? You're doing too much man. My post was based on observation. I've seen paladins in FFXI and FFXIV (mostly ffxi) bitching over the years and I commented about it. How much expertise does it take to see someone complaining on a forum and realize they're complaining? That really requires leveling a job to 50?

So what you're telling me is over all these years no Paladin has ever complained about another tanking job? That's what you're telling me?

This could have been avoided if you simply decided not to put up a comment about paladins in Final Fantasy XI.

[Searious]

What is "this" and why should I have not commented on FFXI? I only spoke the truth.

[buritoslicer]

What is "this" and why should I have not commented on FFXI? I only spoke the truth.

Because the Final Fantasy XI forums are over here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forum.php
I'll gladly argue with you over there about Whiny Paladins.

[Kagato]

Because the Final Fantasy XI forums are over here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forum.php
I'll gladly argue with you over there about Whiny Paladins.

Victory. End of discussion.