Respect the pull timer.

[Kolaina]

Shame on me? How am I supposed to know they are new and needed help? I asked, and I got no answer. In the end could have been avoided if they just bought a simple $10-15 dollar keyboard off amazon, or simply said something like sorry new while dead, or had preset macros with phrases like New, still adjusting. Many things could have been done on their part. Yet none of these attempts were made so yeah I assumed the worse. Cause if they could not take the time out prior to run to setup macros, buy a cheap keyboard, or even during the run simply write out "Sorry New" why should we deal with it? Remember, you cannot kick someone until 5 min has passed, that means they had 5 min to say sorry new at the very least. Sure some are more patient, I am not.



I also know there is the possibility they were trying to leech off the group, they could have easily said something during the time they were dead.

Or… you could be patient. Give people the benefit of the doubt. See if they learn when given advice. People shouldn’t need to spend money to appease you. Shouldn’t feel pressured to be social if they don’t want to. You also shouldn’t br kicking at the first sign of a struggle which is what you suggest you are doing.

Trolls are obvious. Screwing up a mechanic or not understanding something does not equal trolling. Slow down. Stay calm and lay off the vote kick just cause you’ve had “previous experiences” which also may just be you reading into something that isn’t actually there

[Bobby66]

Or… you could be patient. Give people the benefit of the doubt. See if they learn when given advice. People shouldn’t need to spend money to appease you. Shouldn’t feel pressured to be social if they don’t want to. You also shouldn’t br kicking at the first sign of a struggle which is what you suggest you are doing.

Trolls are obvious. Screwing up a mechanic or not understanding something does not equal trolling. Slow down. Stay calm and lay off the vote kick just cause you’ve had “previous experiences” which also may just be you reading into something that isn’t actually there

My edited point addresses the whole benefit of the doubt thing.

"I can respect that, personally not a fan of giving someone a pass because the content can be done with only two people. Just because something is easy does not mean a player should get a pass imo. That said, if they spoke up this would not have been an issue, for whatever reason any lack of communion shows they do nor respect the time of others. As stated a console player easily could have macros setup, sure it would take time out to setup said macros without a keyboard but it is a one and done thing. Have ones that say they are on console with no keyboard, that they are new, that they would like explanations etc . . . may take a couple of hours but hey once your done your done. If they cannot be bothered to make an attempt, I cannot be bothered to give them the benefit of the doubt and simply let it slide."

Goes both ways I should not be pressured to be patient, and more understanding.