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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Mint Goh
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    Can someone in Square Enix explain to me why my character needs to have that SHINY WHITE/DARK Aura telling everyone that in fact yes I'm here, please focus me hard when engaging at melee range.

    Why the enemy needs to know that I'm using Frazzie or Magic Barrier? Meanwhile Chiten remains invisible for 5 seconds and can potentially wipe and entire group/alliance at max hp.
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Red Mage =/= epic SAMURAI warrior
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Can someone in Square Enix explain to me why my character needs to have that SHINY WHITE/DARK Aura telling everyone that in fact yes I'm here, please focus me hard when engaging at melee range.

    Why the enemy needs to know that I'm using Frazzie or Magic Barrier? Meanwhile Chiten remains invisible for 5 seconds and can potentially wipe and entire group/alliance at max hp.
    If Samurai had modifiers for skills doing two different things it would also get an aura like this.

    Given you can swap back and forth on demand depending what effect you want, do you really think it to be fair that the enemy has to either track your buff bar or gamble if you Resolution for Silence or Bind, if you Magick Barrier or Frazzle on engage or if your melee combo suddenly hits hard or you suddenly end up being tankier?

    Shifts without the visual indicator would be a nightmare to keep track of.
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    Kathleen Nadinea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    do you really think it to be fair that the enemy has to either track your buff bar
    I mean, yeah? You already do that with MCH. I think RDM is strong as is and wouldn't really remove the aura around it but I wouldn't call that unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathleen_ View Post
    I mean, yeah? You already do that with MCH. I think RDM is strong as is and wouldn't really remove the aura around it but I wouldn't call that unfair.
    The difference is that MCH actions are predictable. The most about the unpredictability of Machinist is when you actually use Analysis or drop a massive Wildfire combo.

    Drill -> doing more damage (which you want to do most of the time anyways)
    Bioblaster -> some extra damage + Heavy debuff
    Anchor -> some extra damage and a stun instead of a bind
    Chainsaw -> random chance of nearly one-shotting someone

    Drill you enhance most of the time anyways, Bioblaster is situational but alright, Air Anchor depends if you intend to do the stun-fire combo and Chainsaw is generally a waste of Analysis beyond a complete clutch. However, it all boils down to "doing more damage" and mildly changing a CC on one of them.

    Red Mage can swap on demand and stay unpredictable, like swapping to White Shift mid combo and using Resolution to Silence, then swapping back to Black Shift to continue doing more damage with melee combo / Verflare. Or vice versa for survival.

    TL;DR: MCH is a lot more predictable than RDM and the options of each differ wildly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    The difference is that MCH actions are predictable. The most about the unpredictability of Machinist is when you actually use Analysis or drop a massive Wildfire combo.

    Drill -> doing more damage (which you want to do most of the time anyways)
    Bioblaster -> some extra damage + Heavy debuff
    Anchor -> some extra damage and a stun instead of a bind
    Chainsaw -> random chance of nearly one-shotting someone

    Drill you enhance most of the time anyways, Bioblaster is situational but alright, Air Anchor depends if you intend to do the stun-fire combo and Chainsaw is generally a waste of Analysis beyond a complete clutch. However, it all boils down to "doing more damage" and mildly changing a CC on one of them.

    Red Mage can swap on demand and stay unpredictable, like swapping to White Shift mid combo and using Resolution to Silence, then swapping back to Black Shift to continue doing more damage with melee combo / Verflare. Or vice versa for survival.

    TL;DR: MCH is a lot more predictable than RDM and the options of each differ wildly.
    Yeah exactly and the predictability comes from having a big icon next to your name telling you exactly what's going to happen. Removing the aura on RDM while completely unnecessary I feel wouldn't be any different in the long run as good players will just adjust to the playstyle. Definitely not something that I would call unfair. RDM goes in? Most of the time it's on blackshift so if you see the icon change you know a silence is coming. Backflip? Gaze onto the icon to see if they're going to burst or heal and adjust accordingly, etc. Again not a change I would like to see because RDM is already strong as fuck but it'd be far from being unfair I think.
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