What if Support Role was Added to FFXIV?

[FiliusLunae]

FFXI had legit support jobs. BRD and COR (Corsair) come to mind. BRD provided such good and strong buffs for casters and melee that parties had at least one BRD. Sometimes 2 BRDs in a 6-person party, situationally.

BRD was considered off-heal support—you were expected to aid the main healer in between singing songs, which took 4-8 seconds to play each.

COR, on the other hand, was DPS support. Its buffs were similar to BRD, but COR was expected to maximize DPS in between buffs. Neither BRD or COR would never top the charts, but their utility and the way they maximized the party was desired.

This is what I see missing from FFXIV. As a BRD in FFIX, your role was to run around the battlefield so you could buff people with the appropriate songs—casters got MP and Magic+ buffs, and the frontline got Haste, Attack+ and other melee goodies. Your rotation consisted of singings with the occasional off-heal. Your role was really to support your party. This concept doesn't exist in FFXIV.

[R041]

This concept doesn't exist in FFXIV.

It used to. :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pve2swkUMUI

SE is so afraid of us breaking their content, and their 'intended' DDR playstyle, that they've just been removing our individual capabilities in favor of different flavors of damage abilities and extended bursting that match their designed windows. With how everything else has gone, Crit is probably on the chopping block for next expac. There's nothing to support anymore.

[Atelier-Bagur]

It used to. :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pve2swkUMUI

SE is so afraid of us breaking their content, and their 'intended' DDR playstyle, that they've just been removing our individual capabilities in favor of different flavors of damage abilities and extended bursting that match their designed windows. With how everything else has gone, Crit is probably on the chopping block for next expac. There's nothing to support anymore.

nothing to support 'cept the game which to some is considered a downright abysmal failure in almost every single way in its current game.

[R041]

nothing to support 'cept the game which to some is considered a downright abysmal failure in almost every single way in its current game.

I don't even know what you're trying to say. But I do find it funny that you have more posts in 1 year than most that have been playing for a decade. lol

You sure are the whitest DRK.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I don't even know what you're trying to say. But I do find it funny that you have more posts in 1 year than most that have been playing for a decade. lol

You sure are the whitest DRK.

I have no clue what you're even talking about. Im just echoing what the forums are basically saying really.

Also I cant be white if Im green (well this current character at least) and a Paladin sooooo..

[FiliusLunae]

FFXI had legit support jobs. BRD and COR (Corsair) come to mind. BRD provided such good and strong buffs for casters and melee that parties had at least one BRD. Sometimes 2 BRDs in a 6-person party, situationally.

BRD was considered off-heal support—you were expected to aid the main healer in between singing songs, which took 4-8 seconds to play each.

COR, on the other hand, was DPS support. Its buffs were similar to BRD, but COR was expected to maximize DPS in between buffs. Neither BRD or COR would never top the charts, but their utility and the way they maximized the party was desired.

This is what I see missing from FFXIV. As a BRD in FFIX, your role was to run around the battlefield so you could buff people with the appropriate songs—casters got MP and Magic+ buffs, and the frontline got Haste, Attack+ and other melee goodies. Your rotation consisted of singings with the occasional off-heal. Your role was really to support your party. This concept doesn't exist in FFXIV.

Another role I miss is that of debuffer from FFXIV. This usually fell to RDM, who got the highest enfleebling skill and the strongest debuffs. Depending on the situation, you could opt for bringing a RDM as a main healer and sacrifice efficient healing for the strongest debuffs.

I feel that type of strategic decision making is missing in XIV.

[Stanelis]

Would it make sense to add a fourth role to the Trinity of Tank, Healer and DPS to help create a better balance between all the job classes?

It has been asked several time to Yoshida in interviews and sadly it isn't planned at this point.

[R041]

Im just echoing what the forums are basically saying really.

Because you're taking it as whining without trying to understand the context and are just stifling discussions. Other games can take feedback while still maintaining composure. Criticism for XIV doesn't hurt you personally, so why act like it does?

Maybe you need to take some feedback from yourself. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-Community-Btw

[Atelier-Bagur]

Because you're taking it as whining without trying to understand the context and are just stifling discussions. Other games can take feedback while still maintaining composure. Criticism for XIV doesn't hurt you personally, so why act like it does?

where am I ever saying that we cant have discussions? I disagree with a lot of things people have with this game but never have I openly stated that they need to shut up, but Ive also openly shared my gripes with this game as well. Nothing is ever one note. A discussion is a discussion.

[R041]

where am I ever saying that we cant have discussions? I disagree with a lot of things people have with this game but never have I openly stated that they need to shut up, but Ive also openly shared my gripes with this game as well. Nothing is ever one note. A discussion is a discussion.

Your post history is riddled with ad-hominems - attacking and generalizing instead of replying to the actual comment's contents. You had an opportunity to reply to my post for discussion's sake, but chose to attack the forum and myself as you often do.

Then we'll get into an argument because I snap back. I'm not a better person. lol

I see you doing the same thing to multiple people in different threads right this second. It's like you think we're in forum pvp.