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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    PVP is a waste of development time and I'm tired of seeing it being used primarily as patchnote filler for otherwise dry updates.
    Still better content than Island Sanctuary and alike that are basically one and done. Considering it's potential longevity to most other content it should get much more dev time and resources to not end up as half baked attempt.

    Casual queue keeps firing throughout the day even during the more quiet parts of patch cycle, so there's definately people just playing it for fun.

    There's still a lot of work to be done to make it even half as good as it could be though.
    For example, I have friends who would love to play it but don't want to queue solo, yet people are really torn on party queues even with the current lack of balance in Casual queue which shouldn't be an issue if the matchmaker system actually put any proper weight on things.
    Quick chat is incredibly insufficient and spammy compared to ping systems of most other games and lacks proper visual cues and recycles sound effects on multiple commands instead of having clear ones for all of the important calls.
    Reward structure is still complete jank, meaning Ranked is pointless outside of your first ever Season. At least they added something to Crystal Trophy store this time despite being just reworks of old gear, Wolf Collars / Trophy Crystals / Wolf Marks need to be expanded upon even if it steps on stuff like Allied Seals or old Tome mats to offer real alternatives.

    Both CC and Rival Wings would benefit from Roulette.

    PvP could also have their own "Relic" grind including all the game modes if they were properly supported among other things.

    Yet as things are, PvP is vastly under utilized and under supported. Which is a shame because the potential is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Nah, but you did imply it with that comment. I'm not complaining about having to do it either. I may need to vent my frustrations every now and then because playing with other people can be grating sometimes, but the ends justify the means in my book. Sure, it's not exactly my cup of tea, but it's still drinkable. An MMO has plenty of grinds that aren't always fun but give nice rewards at the end. For me, this is no different, though as I said, I do think CC is fun enough. Seriously, I love the casual aspect of it. As someone who typically loathes PvP, it's not a bad time at all. I'll take CC over doing BGs in WoW any day. The best approach is to never expect to win. After going at it for over a hundred matches though, that starts to wear me down, but the grind is nearly done at that point. Again, CC can be fun but overall it's a means to an end for me.
    My orginal coment was about Jamie, that come to forum just to complain and didnt gave any information what is wrong with the content. Its just a post made to start a flame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    PVP is a waste of development time and I'm tired of seeing it being used primarily as patchnote filler for otherwise dry updates.
    PvP players have more fun across the patches that you will ever have with scripted PvE. So no, its the LEAST waste of time because of replayability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    PvP players have more fun across the patches that you will ever have with scripted PvE. So no, its the LEAST waste of time because of replayability.
    Are you sure? the PVP section is nothing but people bitching about pvp. Everyone I talk to talks about how unabalnced and unfun it is.

    If PVP was so fun Square Enix wouldn't need to resort to things like a hilariously bloated daily roulete for PvE exp, or locking rewards behind a malicious FOMO battle pass system just to get people to play their bootleg overwatch mode.

    I guarantee you, if Frontlines wasn't a free daily alt-job level, no one would touch it. If that daily didn't exist, those matches wouldn't even fill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Are you sure? the PVP section is nothing but people bitching about pvp. Everyone I talk to talks about how unabalnced and unfun it is.

    If PVP was so fun Square Enix wouldn't need to resort to things like a hilariously bloated daily roulete for PvE exp, or locking rewards behind a malicious FOMO battle pass system just to get people to play their bootleg overwatch mode.

    I guarantee you, if Frontlines wasn't a free daily alt-job level, no one would touch it. If that daily didn't exist, those matches wouldn't even fill.
    In regards to ppl complaining about pvp balance. PvP will never be balanced unless there is only 1 character with 1 loadout and skill set that every person has to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    In regards to ppl complaining about pvp balance. PvP will never be balanced unless there is only 1 character with 1 loadout and skill set that every person has to use.
    Oh, that's just the game in general. Can't have one class/job do a bit better in a particular fight, then everyone will *stares at the logs showing how a mobile class did a bit better than a casting class in a fight that makes you move around a lot* then everyone will get mad! lol
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    I will say as a 1.0 player, it's absolutely baffling to me how stubborn SE is about making pvp rewards permanently unobtainable. I don't even understand the logic. If a new player sees a pvp set they're interested in and asks about it, especially one of the older feast rewards, how is that player motivated to try pvp if the answer they get is "It's from pvp. ...you can't get it anymore"

    I bring up me being a legacy player because I don't hold attachments to items, I hold attachments to the memories attached to those items. So in my opinion, I'd be perfectly cool with them making all sorts of legacy items available again (and they even did that once with manderville earrings and white ravens), it wouldn't effect me at all because I could still reminisce about my time playing 1.0.

    I think replica items would be a fine solution to both legacy and old pvp rewards. There's really no reason to keep these items exclusive because all it does is disenfranchise newer players imo
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    Welp, the grind to get the current Series rewards is done, give us more SQEX.
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    The problem with pvp is not that people only do it for the rewards. If ultimates gave no rewards how many people do you think would attemp it?
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starshower View Post
    The problem with pvp is not that people only do it for the rewards. If ultimates gave no rewards how many people do you think would attemp it?
    Just about every piece of content needs to incentivize participation, so yeah, this isn't really anything new or a problem in and of itself. That's just how people operate. If there's nothing in it for them, they will usually not take part.
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