"Why is there gear gated behind Savage/Treasure maps/Ex Trials/Crafting/Gathering/"insert story locked behind an job or rolequest??? I should not be forced to xyz!".....
None of that content has any requirement beyond "queue up for this" or "make a pf and wait for 5 minutes", it's not gated in any meaningful way
My point exactly...alot of these excuses weren't even valid this is a MMORPG but it is what it is. Its giving cult like vibes
Death Is Only The Beginning....
For me there is a big difference between playable content and the rewards that said content offers - all of those contents can be accessed by anyone who wants to do them and its only up the player to get there.
Different story for content that would be locked behind FCs - where you'd be way more dependant on other people. On the one hand having enough people online at any given time to do the content and on the other hand not having so many people online that you dont get to do the content because you get excluded.
I'd like to offer two scenarios here, assuming that when we're talking about "content" we mean something along the lines of a dungeon - in the broadest sense, mainly: battle-content that people play together in a cooperative fashion at the same time:
(A) We get new [content] for up to 4/8/24/72 people. You can invite anyone to join you for this content, including FC-members and friends from other FCs and worlds. If not enough of your FC-members (and friends) are online, you can use PF to recruit strangers or try your luck with DF. If you - and some FC-members/friends - want to play this content, you can do so at any given time (more or less).
(B) We get new [content] for up to $/8/24/72 people. You can only invite FC-members to join you for this content. Any friends from other FCs or worlds are out*. If not enough of your FC-members are online to attempt this content with any promise of sucess (e.g. you dont really need to attempt treasure maps with less than 3 people - while possible, its not fun. At least not in my humble opinion). If to many of your FC-members are online, some might be left out. If you want to play this content, you depend on your FC-members being active at the same time as you while not having other ingame plans.
Why would B be better than A? What would the benefit be? Certainly not making FCs more social - maybe I'm to negative but I can already picture dramas like this:
"Hey, I want to do [content] on monday, tuesday and friday! Let me join your FC!"
"Cool, we do [content] on monday, tuesday, thursday and saturday and we need more people!"
...
"You didnt do [content] for the last two mondays! I'm leaving!" or "I wasnt allowed to join for [content] for the last two weeks! I'm leaving!"
or, on the FC-side: "You didnt show up for [content] for the last two weeks, you're out!"
*funny enough: they werent even that bold - or brutal - for Diadem back then...
Last edited by Vidu; 01-04-2023 at 04:47 AM.
The only "gate" that exists for anything you just mentioned is savage having loot capped. That's the only gear that even matters to anyone looking to do that level of content or ultimate. Everything else is easy access for all and generally optional. FCs have their own "gated" content already. Why the greed?
The fact that we talk about an old version of Diadem in the past tense should be enough of a clue as to how the proposed addition would do, but some cling to the past a little too hard.
Last edited by Deveryn; 01-04-2023 at 06:38 AM.
Try answering my actual questions instead of dodging them by talking about rewards gated by content that anyone can access without having membership in a specific type of social group.
Why is more FC specific content needed? Why can't FC make use of content already in the game for their social activities?
I can tell you right now that if a FC is not making use of existing content for their social activities, they won't be making use of FC specific content for their social activities either. All you end up doing is creating new exclusives for FC Masters and their pet officers, much like the workshop already is.
It means you wait until a future expansion and get the items then when you can do the content unsynced. You don't have to join a FC to get them on top of other requirements.That exists already with current savage gears. I love some of the weapons for glams and I would reeeeeeaally like to get them but I lack the patience and skill to do savage raiding anymore. Does that mean the team have to cater to us casuals that want the weapons by making savage raiding easier? Hell no.
Last edited by Jojoya; 01-04-2023 at 07:14 AM.
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